Tuplets in Finale for Windows

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chill319
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Post by chill319 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:02 pm

I need help getting Finale 26.3 for Windows to notate a tuplet.
I've tried this unsuccessfully many times, using a computer that has just booted Windows 10 and with Finale 26.3 just opened.
In a section barred in 3/4 I want one measure to have five quarter notes.
The first thing I do is place a quarter note or rest in the measure.
The next thing I do is click on the note or rest, open the tuplet tool, and ask it to fit five quarters into the measure, as shown.
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Finale always responds as shown:
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Just for the record, I expected Finale to put 5 rests inside that bracket instead of 3.
If I start adding quarter notes to the bracket, Finale lets me keep going as far as 4. It error-dings when I try to add a fifth.
Finale _will_ let me add a fifth note if that note is an eighth note, as shown.
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Of course, that's not what I want. I want five quarter notes.
But it looks like that's beyond the capabilities of Finale 26.3 for Windows.
Has anyone found a work-around?


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Post by michelp » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:27 pm

If you used Simple Entry (frequent problems at the end of the measure), try Speedy.
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Post by miker » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:31 pm

It's not doing that on my Mac, and I haven't seen any other reports of that happening on Windows.

After entering your first note, while it's still selected, tap ALT-9 on your numberpad. That should let you set it up correctly.

Here's a tutorial I did a few years back:


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Post by chill319 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:39 pm

I got the tuplets I wanted using the speedy entry tool with the keypad. Clunky compared to the tuplet tool -- you have to keep deleting unwanted triple-dotted 64th rests, etc -- but the tuplet tool thinks it's doing the math right, so it doesn't work, whereas the speedy entry tool lets user actions override Finale math, so it works! Thanks everyone.

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Post by motet » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:44 pm

Don't use the Tuplet tool for this--that's where you're running afoul. Stay in Simple (or Speedy) entry and use the tuplet commands from within the entry tool, following Mike's instructions.

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Post by motet » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:46 pm

I don't know what you're doing in Speedy entry, but all you need do is press Ctrl-5 (before entering any notes, unlike Simple entry) and then enter five quarter notes. There should be no triple-dotted 64th rests.

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