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deleting one staff of a piano part intermittently

Postby jazzrat2000 » Thu May 11, 2006 11:33 am

Hi, I am not quite a beginner, I have been using finale on and off since the beginning, and MPP+ before that! anyway, after a "layoff" I am back... my question: how do I delete either the treble or bass clef staff for part of my jazz band piano part when they aren't needed, a line at a time? or even better, globally when there is nothing but rests in other of them? my piano part is almost twice as long as it needs to be... TIA!
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Postby michelp » Thu May 11, 2006 11:52 am

Use optimization. Page Layout tool, page layout menu, optimize staff systems. Define a range of systems.
This will remove the empty staves. Make sure they are really empty : no entered rests, nothing.
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thaks!

Postby jazzrat2000 » Thu May 11, 2006 1:30 pm

I tried that, but I think there were rests in them... so it didn't work... I'll delete th reats and give it another go... thanks!
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how to delete rests?

Postby jazzrat2000 » Sun May 14, 2006 3:50 pm

Hi, went back and tried to delete everything in the staffs I want optimized, and I don't know how to do it, everything I try leaves them there... help!
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Re: how to delete rests?

Postby michelp » Sun May 14, 2006 4:39 pm

jazzrat2000 wrote:Hi, went back and tried to delete everything in the staffs I want optimized, and I don't know how to do it, everything I try leaves them there... help!

Mass Edit Tool
Select the regions in the staves you want to clean up for optimization.
Use the clear key, top left on the numeric keypad. This won't delete the measures, but empty them completely.
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no clear key on PC

Postby jazzrat2000 » Sun May 14, 2006 7:14 pm

I think I am getting closer! My computer keyboard has no clear key though, the upper left on the keypad is num lock...I was in block mode and I tried all the keys, none worked for the "clear" function... is there something I am missing? Thanks for all the help! :D
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PS

Postby jazzrat2000 » Sun May 14, 2006 7:15 pm

I have a PC, not a Mac...
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Re: no clear key on PC

Postby michelp » Sun May 14, 2006 9:16 pm

jazzrat2000 wrote:I think I am getting closer! My computer keyboard has no clear key though, the upper left on the keypad is num lock...I was in block mode and I tried all the keys, none worked for the "clear" function... is there something I am missing? Thanks for all the help! :D

I don't know about the num lock key if it doesn't work on the PC...
Make sure you are in the Mass Edit tool, and that a region is selected.
Try this other way : while in the Mass Edit tool, select the region, and type ctrl+x (for "cut" ) then, among the options proposed in the following dialog box, select "Clear".
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Re: no clear key on PC

Postby Peter Thomsen » Mon May 15, 2006 5:01 am

jazzrat2000 wrote:I think I am getting closer! My computer keyboard has no clear key though, the upper left on the keypad is num lock...I was in block mode and I tried all the keys, none worked for the "clear" function...


I may be wrong about this, but I think that the Windows version of Finale uses the Backspace key as Clear key.



Another reason why you can't optimize could be that optimization isn't allowed:

1. Check that Optimization is allowed in the Staff Attributes.
Also check staff styles that are applied to these measures.

2. Since the staff is included in a staff group, you should also check the Group Attributes.
Look for a pop up menu called "Group Optimization".


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