Measure width Problems

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Post by Caputo » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:51 pm

I'll select one measure or even multi measures with the measure tool activated. After the measure Attributes Dialog box pops up, I enter in the values, and it won't change the measure width at all.

i'll type in random values and the only ones it a will allow are the ones that increase the measure lengths to where they go off of the page or so small that all of the measures will be crammed into one another

This has happened before and i removed the system locks and then it worked, but now that majic trick aon't workin' anymore

Any suggestions?

:?:
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:05 am

Let's be scientific here.

A little information about your settings might be helpful:

Take a look in the Edit menu.
Is "Automatic Update Layout" toggled on or off?
Is "Automatic Music Spacing" toggled on or off?

Take a look in Options menu > Update Layout Options...
What are your settings in the Update Layout Options?

Take a look in Options menu > Document Options > Music Spacing.
What are your settings for "Minimum Measure Width" and "Maximum Measure Width"?

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Post by Caputo » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:01 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote: Is "Automatic Update Layout" toggled on or off?
Is "Automatic Music Spacing" toggled on or off?
Both are toggled off
Peter Thomsen wrote: What are your settings in the Update Layout Options?
Do Not reflow is selected

Refow systems across pages and Automatic Update layout BOTH are not selected
Peter Thomsen wrote:What are your settings for "Minimum Measure Width" and "Maximum Measure Width"?
Zero for minimum / 6.25 for max

Another strange thing is that, I will select a measure and set the measure width for something like .05 and it will change it to a width of something close to 3. It's like it is interpolating the width many times over
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:54 pm

Caputo wrote:...Zero for minimum / 6.25 for max

Another strange thing is that, I will select a measure and set the measure width for something like .05 and it will change it to a width of something close to 3. It's like it is interpolating the width many times over
6.25 of what unit?
.05 of what unit?
3 of what unit?
In Other Words:
Take a look at
Options menu > Measurement Units

A value of "6.25 for max" sounds like your Measurement Units are "Inches" or "Centimeters"?

Is the measure you select the last measure of a system?

Are there any Multimeasure Rests involved?
Are there any staves with Alternate Notation (Staff Tool)?

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Post by Caputo » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:19 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
Caputo wrote:...Zero for minimum / 6.25 for max

Another strange thing is that, I will select a measure and set the measure width for something like .05 and it will change it to a width of something close to 3. It's like it is interpolating the width many times over
6.25 of what unit?
.05 of what unit?
3 of what unit?
In Other Words:
Take a look at
Options menu > Measurement Units

A value of "6.25 for max" sounds like your Measurement Units are "Inches" or "Centimeters"?
The units are in inches
Peter Thomsen wrote:Is the measure you select the last measure of a system?
I selected both any measure and a last measure and the same results or non-results as mentioned above no matter which measure is selected

It's weird, I will punch in .001(in) for measure 1, and it will shrink that measure way down, but when I do it on the last measure, it won't do anything
Peter Thomsen wrote:Are there any Multimeasure Rests involved?
None
Peter Thomsen wrote:Are there any staves with Alternate Notation (Staff Tool)?
The staves have a staff style applied in rhythmic notation

But now I am trying this on any measure on various staff styles and the problem is global

Another weird thing is that it won't let me drag the measure handles
It's like when I drag, the measure won't move, and then when I release, it will make one measure the entire length of the page while pushing the other ones off

Also, when I attempted to add width of .002 (inches) to a normal size measure, it stretched the measure across the page and pushed the other ones off, too

Thanks,
Geoff J
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:21 pm

Caputo,

This is definitely not a normal behaviour in a Finale document.
So now I suspect some sort of file corruption.

Do you get the same, weird behaviour in a new, empty Finale document, or does the problem only occur in this particular document?

Could you e-mail me a sample file?

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Post by Caputo » Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:17 am

Thanks, Peter. I will try on a new file.

I will then send you a sample

Thanks
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