How to print system numbers?
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Hi!
I want systems numbers in my score, Finale 2007.
I can see the numbers (in page view) but only with the page layout button pressed. How do I get those numbers permanent and printable? Is there a way to position them farther from the page left edge?
Thank you
I want systems numbers in my score, Finale 2007.
I can see the numbers (in page view) but only with the page layout button pressed. How do I get those numbers permanent and printable? Is there a way to position them farther from the page left edge?
Thank you
- michelp
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Systems numbers are visible when the page layout tool is selected, but as far as I know, they cannot be printed.
A workaround : create a text expression or a text for each system and position it.
A workaround : create a text expression or a text for each system and position it.
Michel
MacOsX 12.7.4, Finale 27.4.1 & 26.3.1, Mac Mini Intel Dual Core i7 3Ghz, 16 Go Ram. Azerty kb. MOTU Midi Express XT USB, Roland Sound Canvas SC-88vl, MOTU Audio Express. 2 monitors (27"' pivot, 24'"), JW Lua, RGP Lua
MacOsX 12.7.4, Finale 27.4.1 & 26.3.1, Mac Mini Intel Dual Core i7 3Ghz, 16 Go Ram. Azerty kb. MOTU Midi Express XT USB, Roland Sound Canvas SC-88vl, MOTU Audio Express. 2 monitors (27"' pivot, 24'"), JW Lua, RGP Lua
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I just stumbled on this ancient thread, hoping to find a built-in procedure for line numbers / system numbers. Here is the easiest way I know, and these instructions are written into the attached example doc:
> Create a text box.
> Type in the counting numbers, each followed by one (or two?) line-feeds (ENTER is line-feed).
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> press ctrl-shift-period repeatedly until the column of numbers increases character size & column height until it looks close enough.
> right-justify
> If it isn't close enough, you can fine-tune character size and Line-spacing from the Text menu.
It's still a job, but usually doesn't take long to look ok.
> Create a text box.
> Type in the counting numbers, each followed by one (or two?) line-feeds (ENTER is line-feed).
> Select all
> press ctrl-shift-period repeatedly until the column of numbers increases character size & column height until it looks close enough.
> right-justify
> If it isn't close enough, you can fine-tune character size and Line-spacing from the Text menu.
It's still a job, but usually doesn't take long to look ok.
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Another way is to use sequential rehearsal numbers (make a duplicate if sequential numbers are already in use in that score -- or make a second Rehearsl Marks Category, which is what I did). Then adjust the positioning to be on the left of the leftmost measure. Using a meta tool, they can be added very quickly and are readily adjusted if an extra system needs to be inserted.
In the case of a single staff to a system I used
Justification: Left
Horizontal Alignment Point: Left Barline
Additional Horizontal Offset: -85
Vertical Alignment Point: Above Staff Baseline
Additional Baseline Offset: -115
In the case of a single staff to a system I used
Justification: Left
Horizontal Alignment Point: Left Barline
Additional Horizontal Offset: -85
Vertical Alignment Point: Above Staff Baseline
Additional Baseline Offset: -115
Graeme Gilmore
Finale 27.2, Windows 10 64-bit Home Premium, GPO, TGTools, Patterson Plug-Ins, Copyist's Helper, JW Plug-Ins
Finale 27.2, Windows 10 64-bit Home Premium, GPO, TGTools, Patterson Plug-Ins, Copyist's Helper, JW Plug-Ins
If the layout changes only slightly after you numbered the staff systems by hand, you'll have to do it over again.montedoro44 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:04 pm> Create a text box.
> Type in the counting numbers, each followed by one (or two?) line-feeds (ENTER is line-feed).
[...]
I would suggest the following JWLua script. Select the whole score and run in in the JWLua plugin window:
Code: Select all
local staffsystems = finale.FCStaffSystems()
staffsystems:LoadAll()
local groups = finale.FCGroups()
groups:LoadAll()
c = groups.Count
for ss in each(staffsystems) do
local g = finale.FCGroup()
g.StartMeasure = ss.FirstMeasure
g.EndMeasure = ss.FirstMeasure
g.StartStaff = finenv.Region().StartStaff
g.EndStaff = finenv.Region().EndStaff
local str = finale.FCString()
c = c+1
str.LuaString = c
g:SaveNewFullNameBlock(str)
g:SaveNewAbbreviatedNameBlock(str)
g:SaveNew(c)
end
- the script adds a new staff group on each staff system
- the new group consists of the selection's staves from top to bottom, but spans only the staff system's first measure
- the group full name as well as the abbreviated name are set to the staff system's number
- thus, the staff system number is centered between the top and the bottom staff and follows any layout changes
Finale 3.0-25.5, German edition, Windows 7
trombonist, pianist, conductor / Recklinghausen, Germany
trombonist, pianist, conductor / Recklinghausen, Germany
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Nice to see these other ingenious methods to get line numbers. Maybe some upgrade day, the Finale programmers will add such a routine -- the logic is already there, per the Page Layout tool.
A related task, likely not broadly desired, is to have staff names on both the right & the left sides of the systems. This is for tightly-written pages of say, like quintets. Sometimes when I'm reading in an ensemble, when I switch to the next line (= next system), I forget which voice I'm playing, and so land on the wrong one. All that would be needed for this would be the addition of a 2nd staff name.
A related task, likely not broadly desired, is to have staff names on both the right & the left sides of the systems. This is for tightly-written pages of say, like quintets. Sometimes when I'm reading in an ensemble, when I switch to the next line (= next system), I forget which voice I'm playing, and so land on the wrong one. All that would be needed for this would be the addition of a 2nd staff name.