Move an individual note to a different layer

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Post by russroan » Thu May 19, 2011 5:34 am

Is it possible to move an individual NOTE to a different layer?

I am using Finale Print Music 2011 on MAC OS X 10.6.7.

If using the select tool, I select a whole measure (i.e., the whole measure has the "blue rectangle" of highlighting) then I can use the pulldown Edit -> Move/Copy Layers.

However, if I select a single note by clicking on the note (and seeing a small blue rectangle of highlight around the note) then the pulldown Edit -> Move/Copy Layers is greyed out.

Is there no way to move an individual note to another layer? I am finding that my scans usually get the right notes but often they are put in the wrong layer. It would be a simple fix to just move the errant notes to the correct layer but I can't seem to do it.


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Post by miker » Thu May 19, 2011 1:39 pm

Not as far as I know. You will probably have to delete the bad note, or change it to a rest, and re-enter it in the other layer. Sometimes, you need to delete and re-enter the entire measure.

Another reason why most of us prefer to just enter the notes, rather than scan, proofread, and correct.
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Post by hyperdog » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:08 pm

Any update on this important feature? Even Finale does not have it. It's been a million times that I had to move just a group of notes to another layer, whether it be from an incorrect scan, or me changing my mind about layering my notes. This feature must be put into Finale 2012!

Just a heads up: My former music notation software, which is primitive compared to Finale, allowed me to do this, even though it only allowed two layers.

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Post by miker » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:20 pm

You'll have to wait until 2012 is released, to see if there is any change.
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Post by michelp » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:24 am

The "full" Finale has "Move/Copy Layers" (Edit menu), but for whole measures, not for single notes.
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Post by miker » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:11 pm

michelp wrote:The "full" Finale has "Move/Copy Layers" (Edit menu), but for whole measures, not for single notes.
Child programs do, as well.
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Post by hyperdog » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:12 pm

miker wrote:You'll have to wait until 2012 is released, to see if there is any change.
Ok, I waited and waited and waited. Now Finale 2012 is out.

So I tried moving only part of a measure to another layer with Finale 2012, and still can't figure how to do it. Does anyone know how to do it with Finale 2012? This is the MOST important feature I need.
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Post by miker » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:36 pm

You can't move part of a measure to another layer. Sorry.
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Post by philtweed » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:05 am

I thi8nk this is crazy. How hard would it be to add the function of right clicking a note and popping up a menu to move that note to another layer???

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Post by miker » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:01 pm

I suspect that it's a little more complicated than that. What would happen to the other notes in that layer? Would they move forward or back? Still, you can submit your request to Finale through the Support system.
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Post by Luis » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:54 pm

Well, maybe it's not as easy as it seems, but Sibelius do like a charm, just with a shortcut, and I'm really miss this feature since the very first version.

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Post by onehunkytenor » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:33 pm

...and here I am in the same boat. A bad scan and needing to move a note here and there to a different layer. Is there still no way to do it?

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Post by miker » Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:50 pm

Nope. Delete and re-enter in the other layer.

You said this was from a scan. Did you use a real scanning program, like SmartScore, or a "black box" that just spits out an XML with no opportunity to edit?
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Post by motet » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:02 pm

I'm trying to imagine what moving a single note to another layer means. Does it replace whatever's there on that beat for that note value? Did the scan somehow recognize that two layers were needed from stem direction? If so, how did it get confused?

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Post by brandenl » Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:57 pm

miker wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:01 pm
I suspect that it's a little more complicated than that. What would happen to the other notes in that layer? Would they move forward or back? Still, you can submit your request to Finale through the Support system.
I have also wondered why they can't add this feature. For all you people who say, "just delete it and add it manually"... the whole point of a program is to make things more efficient. As far as "what would happen to the other notes in that layer?" Finale could offer a popup choice that you could choose what to do with the other notes in the layer or you could have a list of settings for this feature and there it could have a default for what happens when you use this feature... if you want the default to do something different, you could change the default. The feature would add a benefit. IMO

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