Hiding a staff within a part

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Post by bopeuph » Thu May 02, 2024 7:24 pm

I'm working an arrangement where a guitar will be on a heavy colla voce with the vocal at the beginning, and I'd like to have the vocal staff at the beginning of the tune, and hide the staff at the point that the tempo kicks in. I can't find any way to do it on a linked part. It seems the "force hide staff" is an all-or-nothing deal, and the only thing I can think to do is to extract the part to another file, and delete the rest of the vocal part so I can hide the empty staves.

Is there a better method?


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Post by motet » Thu May 02, 2024 7:33 pm

The Force Hide Staff staff style is what you want, applied with the Staff tool while in the part. Select what you want to hide, but instead of picking the staff style by right-clicking, use the menu to choose Apply Staff Style To->Current Part/Score before selecting the staff style.

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Post by bopeuph » Thu May 02, 2024 7:37 pm

Oh, perfect! Yeah, I thought it was within the staff attributes dialog rather than within a staff style. I'd never have guessed to go through the staff menu, anyway. Thanks!

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Post by bopeuph » Thu May 02, 2024 7:41 pm

Okay, is that staff style affecting multimeasure rests? How can I fix that?

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Post by motet » Thu May 02, 2024 9:19 pm

bopeuph wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 7:41 pm
Okay, is that staff style affecting multimeasure rests?
I don't know--is it? :-)

We need an example of what you mean.

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Post by bopeuph » Sun May 05, 2024 3:24 am

Oh! Here you go:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqU3aU9cLzGIgp8m7uc ... g?e=rL2X6V

Kind of ridiculous that an MUSX file is too large for this forum.

I'm looking at the guitar part.

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Post by motet » Sun May 05, 2024 7:53 pm

Yes, I see that it's not creating multimeasure rests where there are notes in the hidden soprano staff. I'm not sure what you can do about that without extracting the part and deleting those soprano notes.

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Post by bopeuph » Sun May 05, 2024 7:55 pm

That's what I thought. How disappointing, but if it's the first time I've come across this problem in 25 years of Finale, I doubt it'll happen again.

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Post by motet » Sun May 05, 2024 8:26 pm

There is a way, but it's arcane:

1) In Document Options/Multimeasure Rests, uncheck Update Automatically.
2) Go to the Guitar part, Selection tool. In page view, lock all systems.
3) Turn off the usage of the copy filter if on. Still in your Guitar part, go to scroll view, select the soprano measures that you've hidden, and do Edit/Copy.
3) With those soprano measures still selected, do Edit/Clear All Items.
4) Go back to page view. Select all measures of the guitar part, right click, and pick "Multimeasure Rests/Create."
5) Back to scroll view. Select the measures in the soprano part that you cleared and paste them back in. Reapply the Collapse staff style.

Of course, you'll need to be careful with Options/Multimeasure Rests/Update Automatically turned off.
Last edited by motet on Mon May 06, 2024 1:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Post by bopeuph » Mon May 06, 2024 12:13 am

Wait, this is clever! Why didn't I think about this? Love it! Thanks!

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