Fix Polychord - superimposed chord notation
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In my Finale document if I create a superimposed chord I find that the chord symbols are too close together - almost obscuring the horizontal bar (see attached). If I were to make an attempt at fixing this where would I start?
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- Peter Thomsen
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The culprit is the {chord root} font.
Document menu > Document Options > Fonts > Chord > Symbol
Click the button {Set Font…}, and choose another font for Symbol.
Try e. g. Arial
By The Way:
What you have done in your attached Finale document, is (Finale-technically speaking) Alternate Bass notation, not polychord notation.
In Other Words:
In your document the lower symbol is an Alternate Bass, not a lower chord symbol.
Which means that the lower symbol can not have a chord suffix.
To get polychords - like e. g.
F#7
Bm
- try this:
1) Enter the lower symbol - Bm.
2) Hit the UpArrow key. The blinker moves up above the chord symbol Bm.
3) Enter the upper symbol - F#7.
4) Use the Expression Tool to add a horizontal line between the two chord symbols.
Consider creating a custom expression category for the horizontal lines.
Document menu > Document Options > Fonts > Chord > Symbol
Click the button {Set Font…}, and choose another font for Symbol.
Try e. g. Arial
By The Way:
What you have done in your attached Finale document, is (Finale-technically speaking) Alternate Bass notation, not polychord notation.
In Other Words:
In your document the lower symbol is an Alternate Bass, not a lower chord symbol.
Which means that the lower symbol can not have a chord suffix.
To get polychords - like e. g.
F#7
Bm
- try this:
1) Enter the lower symbol - Bm.
2) Hit the UpArrow key. The blinker moves up above the chord symbol Bm.
3) Enter the upper symbol - F#7.
4) Use the Expression Tool to add a horizontal line between the two chord symbols.
Consider creating a custom expression category for the horizontal lines.
Mac OS X 12.6.9 (Monterey), Finale user since 1996
- michelp
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As Peter points out, this is not a Polychord, but a chord on top of a bass note.
This is Herbie Hancock's Dolphin Dance, I assume. I would write Bb-7/Eb, with the alternate bass set to "As Subtext" (oblique line, but the bass note slightly below). A common practice.
Bb-7/Eb (or Bbm7/Eb) makes more sense harmonically (ii-7 over V) and is a better information for improvisation.
My 2 cents.
This is Herbie Hancock's Dolphin Dance, I assume. I would write Bb-7/Eb, with the alternate bass set to "As Subtext" (oblique line, but the bass note slightly below). A common practice.
Bb-7/Eb (or Bbm7/Eb) makes more sense harmonically (ii-7 over V) and is a better information for improvisation.
My 2 cents.
Michel
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- engelbach
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I use the same method Peter suggested.
Except that for the horizontal line I use the Chord Definition>Chord Suffix Selection to make a chord suffix using two M dashes, with the second one backed off slightly to avoid a gap between them.
This results in three stacked chord symbols, rather than two chord symbols divided by an expression.
Except that for the horizontal line I use the Chord Definition>Chord Suffix Selection to make a chord suffix using two M dashes, with the second one backed off slightly to avoid a gap between them.
This results in three stacked chord symbols, rather than two chord symbols divided by an expression.
Jerry Engelbach
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- miker
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And this is why rock musicians play six chords to an audience of thousands, and a jazz guitarist plays thousands of chords to an audience of six…
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- michelp
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Make it 4... and all diatonic.
Michel
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