Vertical Position Notes
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Hello Everybody!
I would like to be helped. I need to write the example that I've attached but I would like to be tidier than that. I mean, I would like that my extract keep all headnotes the same vertical direction. Like if the very centre of both notes across the staff could be join in a vertical line. I know that it is pretty good but I can appreciate a slight differeance between one staff and the other, milimetrical differences, but they are
Thank you very much in advance
I would like to be helped. I need to write the example that I've attached but I would like to be tidier than that. I mean, I would like that my extract keep all headnotes the same vertical direction. Like if the very centre of both notes across the staff could be join in a vertical line. I know that it is pretty good but I can appreciate a slight differeance between one staff and the other, milimetrical differences, but they are
Thank you very much in advance
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- Peter Thomsen
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I am sorry, but I do not understand?!?
By default Finale stacks the notes vertically so that all notes on the same beat are aligned.
Is that what you want?
Or is that what you do not want?
By default Finale stacks the notes vertically so that all notes on the same beat are aligned.
Is that what you want?
Or is that what you do not want?
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- miker
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Peter,
I think I can see what she means. I dragged the edge of my browser window across her example, for a vertical sightline.
Pairs 1, 5, 7, 8, 10, 13, 14, 15, 18, and 21 are aligned properly.
Pairs 2, 3, 4, 9, 11, 12, 16, 19, and 20 all have the note in the upper staff offset to the left of the lower staff. In some cases, it's only a pixel or two, but some are off by maybe 15-20% of the notehead widths.
Pairs 6 and 17 have the upper notehead to the right.
Accidentals may be the issue here, although I don't know how they are accounted for in the spacing algorithms. I suspect that the cause is that the spacing takes into account all of the notes and accidentals in the measure, and distributes them accordingly. The upper staff has 19 accidentals and parentheses, while the lower staff has only 5. Possibly one of the other spacing choices would work better.
I think I can see what she means. I dragged the edge of my browser window across her example, for a vertical sightline.
Pairs 1, 5, 7, 8, 10, 13, 14, 15, 18, and 21 are aligned properly.
Pairs 2, 3, 4, 9, 11, 12, 16, 19, and 20 all have the note in the upper staff offset to the left of the lower staff. In some cases, it's only a pixel or two, but some are off by maybe 15-20% of the notehead widths.
Pairs 6 and 17 have the upper notehead to the right.
Accidentals may be the issue here, although I don't know how they are accounted for in the spacing algorithms. I suspect that the cause is that the spacing takes into account all of the notes and accidentals in the measure, and distributes them accordingly. The upper staff has 19 accidentals and parentheses, while the lower staff has only 5. Possibly one of the other spacing choices would work better.
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Thank you very much, Peter and Mike. You both are the best support I would never have imagined. As Mike said, the difference is too small but there is a difference... I have done it through the "Special Tool", changing manually when it was needed.
Maybe, if we could adjust both point center heads of the notes, from the upper and lower staff, would be a solution. Maybe for the next version of finale
Thank you very much!
Is always a pleasure being supported by such talented people
Maybe, if we could adjust both point center heads of the notes, from the upper and lower staff, would be a solution. Maybe for the next version of finale
Thank you very much!
Is always a pleasure being supported by such talented people
- Peter Thomsen
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If you want to adjust the position of a beat (moving both notes on that beat simultaneously),-Laura- wrote:…As Mike said, the difference is too small but there is a difference... I have done it through the "Special Tool", changing manually when it was needed.
Maybe, if we could adjust both point center heads of the notes, from the upper and lower staff, would be a solution. Maybe for the next version of finale …
do not move the notes themselves.
Instead, move the beat:
Measure Tool.
Each measure has - on its right barline - two measure handles.
Click the lower handle to display the Beat Chart.
You will get two rows of squares (handles).
Two move a beat, drag its lower handle horizontally.
The beat will move in all staves (in your example the beat will move in both staves).
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- Peter Thomsen
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I could be wrong here, but I think that the upper and lower notes originally were in alignment, and that
they came out of alignment because -Laura- used the wrong tool (= the Special Tools Tool sub-tool
Note Position Tool) to adjust the spacing manually.
The right tool to use for manually adjusting the spacing is the Measure Tool's Beat Chart.
To remove the manual adjustment done with the Special Tool I would set the Music Spacing to "Clear" all Manual Positioning, and then apply Music Spacing, and Update Layout.
they came out of alignment because -Laura- used the wrong tool (= the Special Tools Tool sub-tool
Note Position Tool) to adjust the spacing manually.
The right tool to use for manually adjusting the spacing is the Measure Tool's Beat Chart.
To remove the manual adjustment done with the Special Tool I would set the Music Spacing to "Clear" all Manual Positioning, and then apply Music Spacing, and Update Layout.
Mac OS X 12.6.9 (Monterey), Finale user since 1996