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French baroque time signatures...

Post by Florio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:23 am

Is it possible to notate the French baroque time signatures 3 and 2 (single numeral placed in vertical centre of the stave)? If so, how is it done?

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:29 am

Document menu > Document Options > Time Signatures

For the Top Symbol, set the Vertical Adjustment to -6pt.
This step will position the “numerator” in the vertical centre of the staff.

For the Bottom Symbol, set the Vertical Adjustment very low, like e. g. -1000pt.
This step will position the “denominator” way below the bottom edge of the page.
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Post by Florio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:09 am

Many thanks, Peter.

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Post by Florio » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:58 pm

Further to my original post, Peter, I've just discovered that I need to use French and Italian time signatures (i.e both 3 and 3/4) in the same document (file). How can I go about this, since I've used document options to set up the French time signature? If I now change back to Italian time signatures, the French time signatures already in the document will be altered.

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Post by michelp » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:31 pm

A solution would be to define the most common time signature appearance as default, and for the less frequent, to create an expression and force-hide the time signature in those measures (Measure tool).
If the single number is the default one, the "regular" 2 number signatures would need to be defined as expressions.
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Post by Florio » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:03 pm

michelp wrote:If the single number is the default one, the "regular" 2 number signatures would need to be defined as expressions.
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Yes, in this case the single number is the default. How can I define a 2 number signature as an expression? I know how to insert single Maestro characters, but how do I get one above the other to use as a time signature?
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Post by Florio » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:25 pm

I've managed to do it, michelp!!

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Post by michelp » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:39 pm

Good that you found a solution.
I was thinking of 2 ways to do it :
• 2 expressions (1 for the numerator, 1 for the denominator)
• or create a shape expression combining the 2 numbers, and group them.
(Save the library if you have to deal frequently with this kind of situation).
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