Motet's transposition chart

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Motet's transposition chart

Post by motet » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:15 pm

As requested, here is the transposition chart I had posted in the old MM forum, showing the Interval and Key Alter settings for most common instruments and transpositions found in the literature, plus instructions on effecting enharmonic key changes.

Read through the topic to the end for future versions.
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Post by Peter S. » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:34 am

Thanks, this is very helpful!
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Post by OCTO » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:51 am

Very helpful, thank you.
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Post by jose oscar » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:19 am

Thank you

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Post by Luka Puka » Wed May 24, 2017 12:09 am

Did you leave out string instruments on purpose?

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Post by motet » Wed May 24, 2017 12:32 am

Only transposing instruments.

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Post by Luka Puka » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:05 am

What about the viola's alto clef and the cello's tenor clef? Those might be useful to indicate; I don't know if it's completely necessary.

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Post by Peter S. » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:29 am

Violas and Cellos are not transposing instruments!
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Post by motet » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:58 pm

Right--the point of the chart is to fill in Finale's transposition dialog correctly. Clefs are a different subject.
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Post by Luka Puka » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:55 am

OHHH, it took me a minute to get what you meant. The only reason I got it was because I played trumpet in 5th grade and the written notes were transposed a major 2nd up from the trumpet's sound. :lol:

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Post by motet » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:03 pm

The flauto piccolo in G was an instrument used in Mozart's time and appearing in his Entführing aus dem Serail. The notes in the Neue Mozart Ausgabe say that it sounds a twelfth above what was written, but it's confusing. In some pieces that appears to be so, but in the overture it seems impossibly high. He writes an F three ledger lines above the staff, which would translate to the highest C on a piano and would double the violins two octaves higher.

Does anyone have experience with this instrument?

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Post by Komponist » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:13 am

Motet, I just found your transposition sheet. It makes writing for transposing instruments much easier. Thanks for taking time.

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Post by motet » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:42 pm

In light of a discussion in another thread, I've added Chromatic Transposition settings to my chart (the numbers one uses are different from Key Signature transposition).

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Wonderful, thank you!
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Thank you, motet.
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Post by motet » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:32 am

A little better wording in a few places; no new information:
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Post by gfox1606 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:27 pm

This chart is the best, particularly for setting up those weird (to my tiny mind) transpositions in Finale. My trumpet in E problems are over. Thanks a million.

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:56 pm

I know this not about transposition, but about a possibly related chart that I've been looking for.
Does anyone know of a comprehensive chart of instrument names and their most common abbreviations in the major languages (Italian, English, German, French)?
I've found something on the net, but nothing really comprehensive, or very reliable, so far.
Perhaps I should say instruments in fairly frequent use in traditional and contemporary music, not the entire ocean of percussion and ethnic instruments.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:49 pm

Anders Hedelin wrote:… I've found something on the net, but nothing really comprehensive, or very reliable, so far …
Do you mean this web site ?

https://www.fransabsil.nl/htm/instrum.htm
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Post by motet » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:15 pm

There are some mistakes in that ("Bass clarinett"), but it seems like a good start. Maybe you could mine that and start your own, and add Spanish or Czech or whatever.

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:25 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
Anders Hedelin wrote:… I've found something on the net, but nothing really comprehensive, or very reliable, so far …
Do you mean this web site ?

https://www.fransabsil.nl/htm/instrum.htm
I'll have to check this more thoroughly.
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Post by Raputtak » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:47 pm

I made a little spreadsheet with this data:

1 Concert Pitch To hear: C C# Db D D# Eb E F F# Gb G G# Ab A A# Bb B
Write:
2 Bb Instruments D D# Eb E F F# Gb G G# Ab A A# Bb B C C# Db
3 Eb Instruments A A# Bb B C C# Db D D# Eb E F F# Gb G G# Ab
4 F Instruments G G#Ab A A#Bb B C C#Db D D# Eb E F F#Gb

To hear the note on line 1 write the note on line 2,3, 4 as appropriate.
I colored the cells to make it visual and printed it out.
Add lines for other transpositions to taste.

I hope it lines up on y'alls computer, but you get my drift.
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Post by Gwyn » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:04 am

That's very useful. Thanks for making this available.
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Post by motet » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:29 am

Here again is the latest version of this chart (April 2020). For some reason, some of the previous attachments have been deleted.
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Post by motet » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:51 am

ewindels inspired me to change "baritone oboe" to the more common English term, "bass oboe." That's the only change.
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