Triplets within a triplet please
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Hi,
I am trying to reproduce a triplet inside a triplet shown in the attachment.
Please, any advise is very much appreciated. If possible, please explain in Speed Entry and Simple Entry.
I have read several threads but no success.
The music is in 3/4. The attachment shows all the notes that fit into ONE QUARTER NOTE.
In the space of 'one' quarter note I need to enter:
Two groups of 'three' 16th notes, each with a "3" bracket under each group of three 16ths PLUS one group of 'four 32nds'
On top, a "3" bracket encompasses all 'ten notes' - to explain that A 'three' 8th note triplet is in the space of TWO 8th notes - ALL IN THE SPACE OF A QUARTER.
Thanks much!!!
FINALE 14.5
MAC OSX 10.8.5
I am trying to reproduce a triplet inside a triplet shown in the attachment.
Please, any advise is very much appreciated. If possible, please explain in Speed Entry and Simple Entry.
I have read several threads but no success.
The music is in 3/4. The attachment shows all the notes that fit into ONE QUARTER NOTE.
In the space of 'one' quarter note I need to enter:
Two groups of 'three' 16th notes, each with a "3" bracket under each group of three 16ths PLUS one group of 'four 32nds'
On top, a "3" bracket encompasses all 'ten notes' - to explain that A 'three' 8th note triplet is in the space of TWO 8th notes - ALL IN THE SPACE OF A QUARTER.
Thanks much!!!
FINALE 14.5
MAC OSX 10.8.5
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- motet
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The easiest way may be to use the tuplet tool. Enter the two sixteen-note triplets and the four 32nds, then switch to the tuplet tool, double-click on the first note, and pick three eighths in the space of two, which will create the surrounding triplet. You may have to turn off "check for extra notes" in Simple Entry. After you do this, it will be hard to tell the 3's apart, but experiment with flipping each one and you'll get it like you want.
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It can be done in Speedy:
- The outer tuplet is three eighths in the space of two. Type Ctrl-3 and enter any old eighth note.
- Move the cursor back over the eighth with left-arrow. Make sure "Insert note or rest" is off.
- Type Ctrl-3 again for the inner sixteenth triplet and enter the three sixteenths, replacing the eighth.
- Type Ctrl-3 and enter the next sixteenth triplet.
- Enter the four thirty-second notes or final triplet.
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I would break the secondary beam after the second “inside” triplet:
I would break the secondary beam after the second “inside” triplet:
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