Changing note to rest does not remove staccato v25.4 Mac

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Post by horn_guy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:26 am

Hello, I had a question about proper behavior when replacing a note with a rest and the note has a staccato marking as shown here:
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After changing the note to a rest the staccato is still present.
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Turning on the articulation tool shows the selection box (just visible) so the marking is valid.
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My question is whether it is expected to remove articulations separately when changing notes to rests. Is there a selection to toggle this behavior somewhere that I am missing? I would have thought this marking should go away when the note goes away.

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Post by zuill » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:27 am

This has been the behavior in Finale for many versions back, probably since the beginning. Not sure that there is a solution.

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Post by BuonTempi » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:42 am

If you have the JW Change plug-in, then you can delete all articulations from rests.
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I've included "Not Fermata" to the settings, as that's one kind of articulation you would want on a rest. Finale is dumb to each kind of articulation -- they are all just symbols with no meaning.

JW Change (and many other plug-ins) are available here:
http://finaletips.nu

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Post by motet » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:47 pm

Pretty easy to delete them without the plugin.

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Post by BuonTempi » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:57 pm

motet wrote:Pretty easy to delete them without the plugin.
Globally, without deleting artics on notes and fermatas on rests..? How?

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Post by motet » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:40 pm

If he's somehow wound up with dozens of staccato rests I guess that would be the way to go.

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Post by zuill » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:57 pm

If you use the JW Change plugin to convert the note to a rest, the staccato dot does not remain.

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Post by motet » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:07 pm

You can also select the note with the Selection tool and press backspace.

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Post by zuill » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:46 pm

Change a note to a rest? That doesn't seem to work for me.

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Post by motet » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:52 pm

After making the selection in the first picture, I pressed Backspace and the result is the second.
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Post by zuill » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:58 pm

Maybe you have a hotkey saved for that, or maybe a TGTools shortcut.

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Post by zuill » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:00 pm

Ah. I selected the note only. You selected the whole beat. Just selecting the note doesn't do it. Selecting the entire beat does.

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Post by motet » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:08 pm

Right. Backspace is just a shortcut for the Edit menu. I'm glad this isn't something they broke with 25.
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Post by motet » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:16 pm

Looks like JW Change requires a beat selection as well.

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Post by zuill » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:21 pm

With JW Change, you can select a half beat and it changes the note to a rest. If you select a half beat with the selection tool, it replaces a quarter note with an eighth rest and eighth note. So there's a difference.

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