Any way to remove parentheses around cautionary accidental?
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- Djard
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To remove parentheses around an accidental, the manual offers the following:
1. Click the Simple Entry tool.
2. CTRL+click the note with an accidental.
3. Type P. To remove the parentheses, type P again.
If I follow step three, not only the parentheses but also the accidental disappears.
In the first measure of the attached document, I have a need to manually add a regular accidental to the last "A" note in layer 2, Is there any way to remove the parentheses?
1. Click the Simple Entry tool.
2. CTRL+click the note with an accidental.
3. Type P. To remove the parentheses, type P again.
If I follow step three, not only the parentheses but also the accidental disappears.
In the first measure of the attached document, I have a need to manually add a regular accidental to the last "A" note in layer 2, Is there any way to remove the parentheses?
- zuill
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Since I get the accidental only following those steps, I figure there might be some problem with your preferences prohibiting proper behavior. Sometimes recreating them fixes this kind of errant behavior.
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- miker
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Before you trash the prefs, try simply restarting the computer. As Zuill says, that's definitely wrong behavior. The instructions are correct, so the problem resides somewhere at your end.
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- Djard
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Thanks. Rebooting at least enabled the plugin method to work.
Firstly, Finale should let me write a natural before the last "A" in the measure that I originally posted. Just because the natural is in layer 2 should not matter. When printed, all the layers are black; hence, failing to show the natural misleads the reader. Interestingly, the last A note that appears as A# in the first document I posted is a natural when played back.
In the attached file, the plugin method applies the chosen accidental to all the notes in the selected layer; but erasing the unwanted ones is easy. So I have a solution.
To rule out the problem being my version of Finale, I'd like to ask a favor and have somebody try to remove the parentheses in the first measure of the attached document, using Speedy Entry as stated in the manual.
Firstly, Finale should let me write a natural before the last "A" in the measure that I originally posted. Just because the natural is in layer 2 should not matter. When printed, all the layers are black; hence, failing to show the natural misleads the reader. Interestingly, the last A note that appears as A# in the first document I posted is a natural when played back.
In the attached file, the plugin method applies the chosen accidental to all the notes in the selected layer; but erasing the unwanted ones is easy. So I have a solution.
To rule out the problem being my version of Finale, I'd like to ask a favor and have somebody try to remove the parentheses in the first measure of the attached document, using Speedy Entry as stated in the manual.
- motet
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Your original posting quoted the Simple Entry method, not Speedy.
Yes, I can remove the parentheses with either entry method. Can you still not do it after rebooting? Make sure you're in layer 2.
Yes, I can remove the parentheses with either entry method. Can you still not do it after rebooting? Make sure you're in layer 2.
- FwL
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P key works for me in both Simple and Speedy, but I'm using 25.5. I skipped 2012.
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- Djard
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I must have a defective copy of Finale. While the plugin option works, a reboot did not help in getting the Speedy Entry option to enter a natural, without parentheses. Here are the exact steps I used:
1. Select layer 2 -> Speedy Entry Tool -> click in the measure.
2. Hold down "Ctrl" key -> click on the note -> release "Ctrl" key.
3. Press "p" key -> press "p" again to remove the parentheses.
Pressing "p" the second time in step 3 removes the parentheses and the accidental. The 'p" key merely toggles the accidental in parentheses on and off.
In which steps am I erring?
1. Select layer 2 -> Speedy Entry Tool -> click in the measure.
2. Hold down "Ctrl" key -> click on the note -> release "Ctrl" key.
3. Press "p" key -> press "p" again to remove the parentheses.
Pressing "p" the second time in step 3 removes the parentheses and the accidental. The 'p" key merely toggles the accidental in parentheses on and off.
In which steps am I erring?
- Djard
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That worked! Typing "P" toggles the accidental in parentheses. Typing "A" does the same but without the parentheses.
I was using Speedy all along but confused it with Simple in the OP because of the heading in the manual that I find misleading. The last steps I posted referred to Speedy. I need to drink more coffee.
Thanks for your kind patience.
I was using Speedy all along but confused it with Simple in the OP because of the heading in the manual that I find misleading. The last steps I posted referred to Speedy. I need to drink more coffee.
Thanks for your kind patience.