Any way to remove parentheses around cautionary accidental?

[Djard]

To remove parentheses around an accidental, the manual offers the following:

1. Click the Simple Entry tool.
2. CTRL+click the note with an accidental.
3. Type P. To remove the parentheses, type P again.

If I follow step three, not only the parentheses but also the accidental disappears.

In the first measure of the attached document, I have a need to manually add a regular accidental to the last "A" note in layer 2, Is there any way to remove the parentheses?

[zuill]

Since I get the accidental only following those steps, I figure there might be some problem with your preferences prohibiting proper behavior. Sometimes recreating them fixes this kind of errant behavior.

Zuill

[miker]

Before you trash the prefs, try simply restarting the computer. As Zuill says, that's definitely wrong behavior. The instructions are correct, so the problem resides somewhere at your end.

[Djard]

Thanks. Rebooting at least enabled the plugin method to work.

Firstly, Finale should let me write a natural before the last "A" in the measure that I originally posted. Just because the natural is in layer 2 should not matter. When printed, all the layers are black; hence, failing to show the natural misleads the reader. Interestingly, the last A note that appears as A# in the first document I posted is a natural when played back.

In the attached file, the plugin method applies the chosen accidental to all the notes in the selected layer; but erasing the unwanted ones is easy. So I have a solution.

To rule out the problem being my version of Finale, I'd like to ask a favor and have somebody try to remove the parentheses in the first measure of the attached document, using Speedy Entry as stated in the manual.

[motet]

Your original posting quoted the Simple Entry method, not Speedy.

Yes, I can remove the parentheses with either entry method. Can you still not do it after rebooting? Make sure you're in layer 2.

[FwL]

P key works for me in both Simple and Speedy, but I'm using 25.5. I skipped 2012.

[zuill]

I tested it in 2012 and it worked there as well.

Zuill

[Djard]

I must have a defective copy of Finale. While the plugin option works, a reboot did not help in getting the Speedy Entry option to enter a natural, without parentheses. Here are the exact steps I used:

1. Select layer 2 -> Speedy Entry Tool -> click in the measure.
2. Hold down "Ctrl" key -> click on the note -> release "Ctrl" key.
3. Press "p" key -> press "p" again to remove the parentheses.

Pressing "p" the second time in step 3 removes the parentheses and the accidental. The 'p" key merely toggles the accidental in parentheses on and off.

In which steps am I erring?

[motet]

For one thing, you're confusing Speedy and Simple entry.

Forget the P. In Speedy entry, type A to get a cautionary accidental without parentheses. In Simple, use Ctrl-Shift-minus.

[Djard]

That worked! Typing "P" toggles the accidental in parentheses. Typing "A" does the same but without the parentheses.

I was using Speedy all along but confused it with Simple in the OP because of the heading in the manual that I find misleading. The last steps I posted referred to Speedy. I need to drink more coffee.

Thanks for your kind patience.

[motet]

Whatever you read directing you to Ctrl-click was referring to Simple entry, not Speedy.