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Post by Raybird » Tue May 22, 2018 9:48 am

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The slur tool — bizarre happenings with hairpins and with octave lines which jump or remove themselves when I re-draw. The hairpin is less serious as I can use cresc. or dimin... but the octave lines !!

Any help gratefully received.


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Post by Bill Stevens » Tue May 22, 2018 10:39 am

Does this happen with every Finale file, or just one?

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Post by Raybird » Tue May 22, 2018 10:59 am

Just one, Bill...

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Post by miker » Tue May 22, 2018 1:58 pm

First, try restarting the computer. Next, try exporting the file as an XML, and re-importing it.
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Post by Raybird » Tue May 22, 2018 2:41 pm

Hello again, Miker...
The XML is useful in that it showed me why the octave lines are not responding... (I am currently involved in a complicated score).

I tried the same trick with another piece where a minim chord has placed itself just before a bar line and I cannot identify it, and therefore erase it. Any ideas here ?

I am afraid I cannot upload a small screen shot of the illegal notes.

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Post by zuill » Tue May 22, 2018 2:44 pm

Moving items is sometimes connected to Independent elements (TS or KS) in staff attributes. Worth checking.

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Post by Raybird » Tue May 22, 2018 2:47 pm

Bizarre, I just tried deleting a few measures and the offending minims reappear before the deleted measures !

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Post by motet » Tue May 22, 2018 5:47 pm

It sounds like the notes are overfilled in the preceding measure. If you can attach your file, we may be able to help you,

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Post by Raybird » Tue May 22, 2018 8:34 pm

This problem no longer comes under the heading of "slur tool".... should I move it to another new post ?

I have tried deleting 3 bars, the guilty one plus the adjacent, without any success. I have also tried to clear all items, which does work until I introduce new bars.

In the meantime how do I attach the file ? And should I send the complete piece ?

Thank you for your interest.

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Post by miker » Tue May 22, 2018 8:43 pm

You can just send a few measures containing the offending notes. Make a copy of the score, delete everything ahead and behind the area you want to post, and go to the Upload Attchment tab just under the reply box.
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Post by motet » Tue May 22, 2018 8:44 pm

Don't worry about the topic title.

If you can provide an excerpt that still has the problem, do that. Otherwise, attach the whole file. When you make a posting, below the box there is a tab "Upload attachment." Click that.

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Post by Raybird » Tue May 22, 2018 8:47 pm

Here it is... the problem bar is currently 36....

Many thanks.

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Post by zuill » Tue May 22, 2018 9:15 pm

That half note is actually from bar 40.

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Post by motet » Tue May 22, 2018 10:12 pm

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Post by motet » Tue May 22, 2018 10:19 pm

Yes--clear the top staff of measure 40 and start over. The whole notes in layers 2 and 3 shouldn't be there. To create the tremolo, enter the two notes as dotted quarters, then apply the plug-in.
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Post by motet » Tue May 22, 2018 10:23 pm

(The piece title has a typo, by the way.)

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Post by zuill » Wed May 23, 2018 3:25 am

motet wrote:Yes--clear the top staff of measure 40 and start over. The whole notes in layers 2 and 3 shouldn't be there. To create the tremolo, enter the two notes as dotted quarters, then apply the plug-in.
It looks like the plugin was already used. The right half of the tremolo is in Bar 48.

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Post by zuill » Wed May 23, 2018 3:52 am

motet wrote:Yes--clear the top staff of measure 40 and start over. The whole notes in layers 2 and 3 shouldn't be there. To create the tremolo, enter the two notes as dotted quarters, then apply the plug-in.
You say dotted quarters, but the bar is actually 4/4. I wonder what that's all about? This file has some quirkiness in it.

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Post by Raybird » Wed May 23, 2018 12:52 pm

All working now... and many thanks for having spotted that typo !

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