Bartok Pizz Playback

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Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Deacon Don » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:28 pm

I'm having trouble getting it to playback. Any suggestions?
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by miker » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:47 pm

Are you using keyswitch instruments?

(I know nothing about it; but this is an answer I've seen many times!)
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Deacon Don » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:22 pm

miker wrote:Are you using keyswitch instruments?

(I know nothing about it; but this is an answer I've seen many times!)
No! I just changed them to KS. I've got the pizz but it's not a Bartok Pizz, i.e. snap pizz.

Thanx.
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Michel R E » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:41 pm

you will only get a bartok pizz if there is one in the sound library.

as far as I know there isn't one in Garritan Instruments for Finale. They MAY have added one since.
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:24 am

Michel R E wrote:you will only get a bartok pizz if there is one in the sound library.

as far as I know there isn't one in Garritan Instruments for Finale. They MAY have added one since.
Of course, makes perfect sense. Where is the sound library? I'll search but if you know would you please
post it?
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Michel R E » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:30 am

you would have to buy a sound library that contains the specific sound you require.

I'm not sure, but in the Garritan that comes with Finale there might be a bartok pizz in one of the additional string directories. you'd have to search through them from the Aria player.
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:07 am

Michel R E wrote:you would have to buy a sound library that contains the specific sound you require.

I'm not sure, but in the Garritan that comes with Finale there might be a bartok pizz in one of the
additional string directories. you'd have to search through them from the Aria player.
So far there's a marking but no sound. Might have to spring for Garritan Orchestra. The sounds
that come with Finale are good and plentiful. Bartok Pizz isn't an everyday articulation.
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Epeedad » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:45 pm

Unfortunately Garritan Personal Orchestra AKA GPO doesn't have Bartok pizz either. East West's Symphonic Orchestra does but integrating EWSO into Finale and making it work well isn't for the feint of heart. I don't bother. I just export to midi and bring things into a DAW (Studio One these days) and edit in the various articulations.

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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:47 pm

Epeedad wrote: Unfortunately Garritan Personal Orchestra AKA GPO doesn't have Bartok pizz either. East West's Symphonic
Orchestra does but integrating EWSO into Finale and making it work well isn't for the feint of heart. I don't bother. I just
export to midi and bring things into a DAW (Studio One these days) and edit in the various articulations.
I'm arranging a tune for a client and the opening is an acoustic guitar striking the string with a pick. It's similar to a BP.
I'm thinking of giving the BP to the Violin 2 and a f pizz to the Viola in order to recreate the sound of the guitar.
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:57 pm

Since the Bartok Pizz isn't available maybe I can create one. Of course I'm totally ignorant of how to do
this, meaning I've not tried creating or modifying articulations, expressions, sounds or anything else.

Does anybody have experience with this endeavor? This will be interesting.
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Michel R E » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:22 pm

There is a bartok pizz in the Garritan Personal Orchestra library. The library is quite inexpensive and easy to use compared to the alternatives.

In the GPO library, you would have to look in GPO 5 instruments, then in Garritan Orchestral Strings, then Section Strings, then Basses, and then Basses Additional Techniques. "Snap pizz" (bartok pizz) is in that folder.
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Deacon Don » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:43 pm

Michel R E wrote: There is a bartok pizz in the Garritan Personal Orchestra library. The library is quite inexpensive and easy
to use compared to the alternatives.

In the GPO library, you would have to look in GPO 5 instruments, then in Garritan Orchestral Strings, then
Section Strings, then Basses, and then Basses Additional Techniques. "Snap pizz" (bartok pizz) is in that
folder.
Michael, thanx!
That would be the GPO Library that's not in Finale. I'm going to get it. Maybe after I get paid for the
arrangement I'm doing.

Of course, hearing the Bartok Pizz is for my listening.

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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Michel R E » Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:03 pm

The full version of GPO has considerably more choice in instruments, as well as actually differentiating between 1st and 2nd violin.
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Re: Bartok Pizz Playback

Post by Nick Mazuk » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:27 pm

Another option instead of GPO is https://www.noteperformer.com/.

I recently found out about it does many things such as Bartok pizz. It might be worth checking out.

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