atonal non-standard key

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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:03 pm

Can anybody tell or show me how to make this key sig? I am not understanding the nonstandard key tool in Finale.
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Post by N Grossingink » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:36 pm

Peter Thomsen gave a full tutorial here:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7299&p=22283&hilit= ... ure#p22283

That was back in 2010, but I doubt anything would have changed.

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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:57 pm

Yeah I guess I am not going to be able to do it. That isn't any more clear than the manual. The old brain just isn't up for that! I try the steps as closely as I can and I usually don't get anything. Oh, well..... :cry:
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Post by motet » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:12 pm

I have some instructions as well. Can't say if they're easier to understand than Peter's. However, I can't seem to upload the document here. It says "Sorry, the board attachment quota has been reached." Anyone know why? It's a 98K zip file.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:20 pm

Take a look at the attached Finale document.
NonstandardKeySign.musx
You need to go to the following dialog boxes (in the Key Signature Tool):

1) Key Signature > Nonstandard Key Signature
Linear Key Format 2, roll to 2 sharps where the second sharp has been changed to a flat.

2) Key Signature > Nonstandard Key Signature > Accidental Order and Amount
Unit 1: No change
Unit 2: Step Level 6, Amount -1 (Step Level 6 = B; Amount -1 = flat)

3) Key Signature > Nonstandard Key Signature > Accidental Octave Placement
Clef 0 (= Treble Clef):
Unit 1: Octave 0
Unit 2: Octave 0
Clef 3 (= Bass Clef):
Unit 1: Octave -1
Unit 2: Octave -2

That is it.

Also, consider
Document menu > Document Options - Key Signatures
The value for Space Between Key Signature Accidentals should perhaps be a little bigger since you mix sharps and flats in th same key signature.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:53 pm

You are a genius. Thanx so much, it is as clear as dirty water now but I think I am beginning to let it sink in.
I can't u/l the file but I did do it. I will u/l as soon as the forum lets me.
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