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Post by OCTO » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:50 am

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How to display in an orchestra score the repeating symbols ||: :|| only for one instrument, not others?

Is there anything like independent barlines?
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:33 am

OCTO wrote:… How to display in an orchestra score the repeating symbols ||:      :|| only for one instrument, not others? …
You can add the repeats to all the instruments, and hide it in all the other instruments.

OCTO wrote:… Is there anything like independent barlines?
Yes, indeed, and there are several threads about barlines here in the forum.

But perhaps you should explain a little more.
The better we understand, the better we can help.

What do you mean by your words “independent barlines”?
- different barline styles in the same measure, but in different staves?
- staggered barlines? (= different simultaneous time signatures)
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Post by OCTO » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:15 am

One instrument (Piano) in the orchestra plays regularly, using repeat-bars and dashed barlines.
The rest of the orchestra has rest or held tones. I want to hide all barlines and repeats for all except the Piano.

The problem is the page break and how to hide repeat-symbols when they start at the first measure in a system.
Peter Thomsen wrote: What do you mean by your words “independent barlines”?
- different barline styles in the same measure, but in different staves?
Yes, these.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:21 pm

OCTO wrote:One instrument (Piano) in the orchestra plays regularly, using repeat-bars and dashed barlines.
The rest of the orchestra has rest or held tones. I want to hide all barlines and repeats for all except the Piano …
Take a look at the attached Finale document.

Is this what you mean?
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Post by OCTO » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:11 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
OCTO wrote:One instrument (Piano) in the orchestra plays regularly, using repeat-bars and dashed barlines.
The rest of the orchestra has rest or held tones. I want to hide all barlines and repeats for all except the Piano …
Take a look at the attached Finale document.

Is this what you mean?
Yes, 90%.
How did you make separate repetitions?

-10%, there is a problem when there is a system break precisely before repetition-barline.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:14 pm

OCTO wrote:… How did you make separate repetitions? …
I did not.
The repeats are in all the staves.
I just used a custom staff style to, not display Barlines and Repeat Bars.

Try this:

1) Open my attached document.
2) Staff Tool.
3) Staff menu > Show Staff Styles (select this item)
4) Staff menu > Show Staff Style Names (select this item)

OCTO wrote:… there is a problem when there is a system break precisely before repetition-barline …
And the problem is?

I do not see the problem.
As Far As I Can Tell, this solution does “hide all barlines and repeats for all except the Piano”.

What am I missing?

If I misunderstand you, then I apologize.
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Post by OCTO » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:48 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
OCTO wrote:… How did you make separate repetitions? …
I did not.
The repeats are in all the staves.
I just used a custom staff style to, not display Barlines and Repeat Bars.

Try this:

1) Open my attached document.
2) Staff Tool.
3) Staff menu > Show Staff Styles (select this item)
4) Staff menu > Show Staff Style Names (select this item)

OCTO wrote:… there is a problem when there is a system break precisely before repetition-barline …
And the problem is?

I do not see the problem.
As Far As I Can Tell, this solution does “hide all barlines and repeats for all except the Piano”.

What am I missing?

If I misunderstand you, then I apologize.
Thanks for the first explanation, indeed works, I just forgotten it all after 2 years being off from Finale.

About the second, there is I get confused: in my screenshot I need to have the end of measure 1 full barline for all instruments, and in the second measure (the next system) as it is displayed.
So to say, the problem is that if I make a system break the barlines disappear. Simply said I need to combine at the first repetition solid barline for all, and repeat symbol for one instrument.
If I am explaining it correctly.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:58 pm

OCTO wrote:… I need to combine at the first repetition solid barline for all, and repeat symbol for one instrument.
If I am explaining it correctly.
Then, in the measure before the first Repeat Bar, do not use a staff style to hide the barline.

See the attached Finale document.
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Post by OCTO » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:51 am

Peter Thomsen wrote:
OCTO wrote:… I need to combine at the first repetition solid barline for all, and repeat symbol for one instrument.
If I am explaining it correctly.
Then, in the measure before the first Repeat Bar, do not use a staff style to hide the barline.

See the attached Finale document.
I see now!
Repeat Bars un-checked!
Wonderful, thank you.
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