Can Finale use Bravura and all symbols as it is: just to apply font change? Is that possible?
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Can Bravura be used as it is?
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N Grossingink
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Fravura is the Finale compatible version of the Bravura font. Have you tried that?
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Peter Thomsen
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Bravura is designed as an example of the new standard for (Unicode) music fonts, SMuFL (= Standard Music Font Layout).
You can read about SMuFL here:
https://www.smufl.org/
Basically SMuFL makes full use of the possibilities in Unicode, so that you can have thousands of musical symbols in a single (Unicode) font.
The (old) music fonts used in Finale (= Maestro, Jazz, Broadway Copyist &c.) are of an older design.
They are not Unicode fonts, hence they are not SMuFL fonts.
Finale is still designed for the (old) music fonts only.
Finale has supported Unicode text fonts since Finale 2012.
However, Finale support for SMuFL fonts is only “on its way”.
I suspect that full Finale support for SMuFL fonts is no small undertaking.
You can read about SMuFL here:
https://www.smufl.org/
Basically SMuFL makes full use of the possibilities in Unicode, so that you can have thousands of musical symbols in a single (Unicode) font.
The (old) music fonts used in Finale (= Maestro, Jazz, Broadway Copyist &c.) are of an older design.
They are not Unicode fonts, hence they are not SMuFL fonts.
Finale is still designed for the (old) music fonts only.
Finale has supported Unicode text fonts since Finale 2012.
However, Finale support for SMuFL fonts is only “on its way”.
I suspect that full Finale support for SMuFL fonts is no small undertaking.
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elbsound
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Use Aruvarb instead of Fravura. It is 100% Maestro compatible AND holds all symbols from Bravura in the unicode symbol area.
So you can indeed apply a simple font change.
Download from https://elbsound.studio/elbsound-music- ... p#download
Examples: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comp ... nt=Aruvarb
Comparison of Fravura and Aruvarb: https://elbsound.studio/experiments-in- ... ersion.php
It is possible to use Bravura in Finale (but it requires a lot of adjustments in the document options), only a few Bravura symbols are not compatible with Finale:
IIRC the whole measure rest, a few alternate notation staff style symbols and the time signature digits.
Jan
So you can indeed apply a simple font change.
Download from https://elbsound.studio/elbsound-music- ... p#download
Examples: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comp ... nt=Aruvarb
Comparison of Fravura and Aruvarb: https://elbsound.studio/experiments-in- ... ersion.php
It is possible to use Bravura in Finale (but it requires a lot of adjustments in the document options), only a few Bravura symbols are not compatible with Finale:
IIRC the whole measure rest, a few alternate notation staff style symbols and the time signature digits.
Jan
Thank you.
It seems that Aruvarb is the font I will need, since I need all other symbols in one font file.
Fravura looks interesting, but as I mentioned, I need so many different symbols.... well, The Contemporary Music....
It seems that Aruvarb is the font I will need, since I need all other symbols in one font file.
Fravura looks interesting, but as I mentioned, I need so many different symbols.... well, The Contemporary Music....
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elbsound
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If you're on MacOS, there is a bug with all unicode symbol fonts in Finale: it is not possible to access symbols 129-159.
These symbols are available in other slots though, but not in the original Maestro slots.
This goes for example for November2, Aruvarb, Bravura, all Lilypond fonts, etc.
On Windows this problem does not exist.
If you download the Aruvarb font, I'd recommend using version 1.12 though it has the 129-159 bug.
Don't add it to MacSymbolsFonts.txt.
These symbols are available in other slots though, but not in the original Maestro slots.
This goes for example for November2, Aruvarb, Bravura, all Lilypond fonts, etc.
On Windows this problem does not exist.
If you download the Aruvarb font, I'd recommend using version 1.12 though it has the 129-159 bug.
Don't add it to MacSymbolsFonts.txt.
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MowingDevil
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How did this work out for you in the end? Good results for contemporary notation?OCTO wrote:Thank you.
It seems that Aruvarb is the font I will need, since I need all other symbols in one font file.
Fravura looks interesting, but as I mentioned, I need so many different symbols.... well, The Contemporary Music....
