Force hide staff cuttaway but keep text

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Post by Capricorn » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:47 pm

I have some dialogue in an opera I'm working on so I was hoping to replace some staff lines with just white but keep the text but when I use the "force hide staff cuttaway" in the staff tool, it makes the text disappear as well. If I keep one line on the staff, the text stays but I'd like it to be just a white space with the dialogue. Is this possible?


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Post by zuill » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:49 pm

In which tool is the text?

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Post by Capricorn » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:02 am

In the text tool.

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Post by zuill » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:13 am

So, if it is disappearing, it is not page attached text, as that will still show. So, it is measure attached. If it is attached to the measure you are hiding, then change the assignment to another measure that is not hiding. Then drag it to the blank space.

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Post by Capricorn » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:24 am

That worked great!!! Thanks!

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Post by Capricorn » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:56 am

I just discovered to my dismay that when I force hide the staff, it hides the staff name as well if the hidden part comes at the beginning of the page. Is there a work around for that, too?

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:09 am

Capricorn wrote:I just discovered to my dismay that when I force hide the staff, it hides the staff name as well if the hidden part comes at the beginning of the page. Is there a work around for that, too?
Instead of Force Hide Staff (Cutaway) you can create a custom staff style that displays nothing except the staff name.
To do so, in the dialog box Staff Styles (where you define your custom staff style), in the pane {Items to Display}, de-select everything you do not want displayed.

Would that work for you?
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Post by Capricorn » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:54 pm

That's a good idea for future projects. The problem in this case is that most of the time they're singing so the staff has to be normal. I've been putting the few measures where they speak under the staff lines which works but I thought it would be tidier if I had a white space there to put the dialogue. Zuill's idea to connect the text to a staff that's being used and drag the dialogue to the white space works except then the white space comes first in the page, the name of the staff disappears. I found if I keep one line, it sets the measure off and keeps the name of the staff even when it comes first in the page so I think I'll end up doing it that way.

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Post by Capricorn » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:36 pm

I just suddenly realized what Peter Thompsen was suggesting about creating a new staff style and tried it and it worked. I had been confused before thinking he meant a complete staff, but it was just a staff style. Thanks so much!

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Post by zuill » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:25 pm

If you choose to do it Peter's way, then you can leave the measure attached text assigned to that measure, as it will now show.

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Post by Capricorn » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:36 pm

Yes, I did that. But the information about attaching the text to another measure is useful in other circumstances. There are so many possibilities with Finale. I keep a file because it's impossible to remember them all (at least for me).

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