I mean, really. A rant about chords

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I mean, really. A rant about chords

Post by miker » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:39 pm

I guess this is why a rock musician plays three chords for an audience of thousands, and a jazz musician plays thousands of chords for an audience of three...
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Re: I mean, really. A rant about chords

Post by N Grossingink » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:36 pm

Your point is what? That these extended suffixes are a little cumbersome to enter in Finale?

Simpler suffixes like 7, mi7, etc. can be typed in as separate characters as you read them (m-i-7). Goes fast. For those extended suffixes like "mi7(b9 b5)", type "chord root - colon - zero - space" and the suffix selection box will appear. Scroll to where the suffix is, click on it and hit enter. Done. The suffix box is set up in a pretty logical order, so they're all relatively easy to find. Practice makes perfect.

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Post by FwL » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:29 pm

Yeah, but the next chord is probably a cozy Fmaj7.
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Post by miker » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:35 pm

N, I had no point; more of an observation. And yes, I do know how to enter the chords!

It would be nice, though, if those chords would space themselves to avoid collisions.
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Post by oldmkvi » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:43 am

Geez, you better stay away from the H-Lo's!

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Post by David Ward » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:35 am

miker wrote:I guess this is why a rock musician plays three chords for an audience of thousands, and a jazz musician plays thousands of chords for an audience of three...
Wouldn't it be simpler just to write the notes?
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:23 am

oldmkvi wrote:Geez, you better stay away from the H-Lo's!
Do you mean the Hi-Lo’s (vocal quartet)?
Just curious.
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Re: I mean, really. A rant about chords

Post by Christopher Smith » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:50 pm

You should set your chords to "Left Align". Centre aligning doesn't matter much when the chords are simple, but the extended chords rapidly get to the point where they appear to be attached to the wrong beat.

You also have the E7(b9) attached to a rest in rhythmic notation. Strictly, it should be attached to the slash it will be played on.

For spacing, I use two different methods to add extra space in the measure to prevent collisions, one for stemless slashes; one for stemmed slashes.

For stemless slashes, putting real rests on the beat where you need more space causes the measure to open up a bit. They won't show up because they are covered by the slash notation, but they will be taken into account by the spacing algorithm. Sometimes simple quarter rests are enough, while other times I have to put in eighth or 16th rests. This method is better than manual respacing because it survives a music spacing command consistently.

For stemmed slashes, I created an articulation that consists of a blank character. I can attach it to a note and drag it left to open up space. My Music Spacing is set to avoid collisions with articulations (jazz falls and the like!) and this works nicely, surviving respacing perfectly consistently.
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Re: I mean, really. A rant about chords

Post by oldmkvi » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:17 pm

Yes, Gene Purling's group.
With great LA Jazz Musicians in the Marty Paich Band, they are great!
Their Harmonies influenced Herbie Hancock, among many others.
Like me...

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Re: I mean, really. A rant about chords

Post by at8ax » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:17 pm

Some of us would think of that first chord as Ab dim .... (preceded by F/A?)

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