I mean, really. A rant about chords
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I guess this is why a rock musician plays three chords for an audience of thousands, and a jazz musician plays thousands of chords for an audience of three...
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- N Grossingink
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Your point is what? That these extended suffixes are a little cumbersome to enter in Finale?
Simpler suffixes like 7, mi7, etc. can be typed in as separate characters as you read them (m-i-7). Goes fast. For those extended suffixes like "mi7(b9 b5)", type "chord root - colon - zero - space" and the suffix selection box will appear. Scroll to where the suffix is, click on it and hit enter. Done. The suffix box is set up in a pretty logical order, so they're all relatively easy to find. Practice makes perfect.
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Simpler suffixes like 7, mi7, etc. can be typed in as separate characters as you read them (m-i-7). Goes fast. For those extended suffixes like "mi7(b9 b5)", type "chord root - colon - zero - space" and the suffix selection box will appear. Scroll to where the suffix is, click on it and hit enter. Done. The suffix box is set up in a pretty logical order, so they're all relatively easy to find. Practice makes perfect.
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N, I had no point; more of an observation. And yes, I do know how to enter the chords!
It would be nice, though, if those chords would space themselves to avoid collisions.
It would be nice, though, if those chords would space themselves to avoid collisions.
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- David Ward
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Wouldn't it be simpler just to write the notes?miker wrote:I guess this is why a rock musician plays three chords for an audience of thousands, and a jazz musician plays thousands of chords for an audience of three...
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Do you mean the Hi-Lo’s (vocal quartet)?oldmkvi wrote:Geez, you better stay away from the H-Lo's!
Just curious.
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You should set your chords to "Left Align". Centre aligning doesn't matter much when the chords are simple, but the extended chords rapidly get to the point where they appear to be attached to the wrong beat.
You also have the E7(b9) attached to a rest in rhythmic notation. Strictly, it should be attached to the slash it will be played on.
For spacing, I use two different methods to add extra space in the measure to prevent collisions, one for stemless slashes; one for stemmed slashes.
For stemless slashes, putting real rests on the beat where you need more space causes the measure to open up a bit. They won't show up because they are covered by the slash notation, but they will be taken into account by the spacing algorithm. Sometimes simple quarter rests are enough, while other times I have to put in eighth or 16th rests. This method is better than manual respacing because it survives a music spacing command consistently.
For stemmed slashes, I created an articulation that consists of a blank character. I can attach it to a note and drag it left to open up space. My Music Spacing is set to avoid collisions with articulations (jazz falls and the like!) and this works nicely, surviving respacing perfectly consistently.
You also have the E7(b9) attached to a rest in rhythmic notation. Strictly, it should be attached to the slash it will be played on.
For spacing, I use two different methods to add extra space in the measure to prevent collisions, one for stemless slashes; one for stemmed slashes.
For stemless slashes, putting real rests on the beat where you need more space causes the measure to open up a bit. They won't show up because they are covered by the slash notation, but they will be taken into account by the spacing algorithm. Sometimes simple quarter rests are enough, while other times I have to put in eighth or 16th rests. This method is better than manual respacing because it survives a music spacing command consistently.
For stemmed slashes, I created an articulation that consists of a blank character. I can attach it to a note and drag it left to open up space. My Music Spacing is set to avoid collisions with articulations (jazz falls and the like!) and this works nicely, surviving respacing perfectly consistently.
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