Scroll view not displaying measure numbers

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Post by CTWRUBEL » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:47 am

I had to re-install Finale v.25 for Windows after a hard drive crash. Now in scroll view the measure numbers no longer display. I've tried a couple different things but still no luck. I'm guessing there's some setting I'm missing. Any thoughts?


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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:19 am

What is the setting in View/Show/Measure Number Bar. That should be checked.

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Post by CTWRUBEL » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:01 pm

Under preferences/view I have "display defined measure numbers" checked. If I go to view/show I can select only "hidden notes and rests" or "percussion midi values".

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:37 pm

CTWRUBEL wrote:… If I go to view/show I can select only "hidden notes and rests" or "percussion midi values".
Are you still in Scroll View?
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Post by motet » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:52 pm

I think there is some confusion here between Edit/Preferences/View and View/Show, but I don't have Measure Number Bar in either. Is the ability to disable the measure number new with F25? Why would you want to turn it off--get get back 1/4 inch of screen space?

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:55 pm

Ah.
Interface changes

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Finale version 25

Finale version 25.2 Interface Changes

Measure Number Bar

A Measure Number Bar is now displayed at the top of the screen when in Scroll and Studio View. This option is set in the Preferences - New dialog box.
Is it no longer at the bottom, or is this something different?

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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:57 pm

What do you mean by the bottom?

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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:49 pm

Here's a screen shot.

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:32 pm

I thought the O.P. was talking about this:
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but perhaps I'm wrong. The thing at the top of your screen is a new feature which I don't have. But the documentation says it's in Preferences/New, not Preferences/View. Is that right?

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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:09 pm

The actual View Menu when in a document. Down the list is the Show sub-menu, then the option is at the bottom of that sub-menu. It is greyed out when in Page View, but gives the option when in Scroll View.

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:10 pm

Ah, OK. Do those bars just number the measures, or do they do something if you click on them?

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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:49 pm

Just showing, as far as I know. What they show reflects the setting for actual or defined measures. In the other thread about regions not showing properly, in the second region, the numbers kept in sequence for the region, but the 2:XX format failed to show past a certain point. Extending the third region to a much higher number restored the expected display.

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:00 pm

I guess that might be useful for wide displays.

Have they by chance fixed the problem with multiple regions and unchecking "include in measure numbering"? I wish they would concentrate on things like that rather than marginally-useful new features like this.

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Post by zuill » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:04 pm

Not sure about the old bug. I try to avoid that in my workflow, so I don't know if it has been fixed. If you had a "broken" file, I can test it to see if it is still behaving badly.

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Post by motet » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:05 am

Thanks. In the attached, set your preference to "display defined measure numbers" and then try to do something with the Measure tool to a measure in the second region (numbered starting at 101), such as "Always show time signature, unchecking "Include in measure numbering" or changing a barline.

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Post by zuill » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:06 am

It behaves the same erroneous way. Edit bar 103 and it applies to 104.

Oh well. What did we expect?

Maybe someone with v26 should check it. I'm on v25.

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Post by motet » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am

Thanks for trying it.

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Post by Vaughan » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:33 pm

Interesting. I should try this on another file to be sure, but I couldn't reproduce the behaviour in v. 26. Perhaps they finally fixed the bug.
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Post by motet » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:05 pm

Wow, that's surprising and encouraging! You do have "Display defined measure numbers" set in Preferences?

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Post by Vaughan » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:48 pm

Yes!
Would you mind sending me another file which exhibits the problem?
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Post by zuill » Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:17 pm

The key to the bug with barlines is using the Measure Tool. If I use the Selection Tool, the barline is applied to the correct measure. If I use the Measure Tool, then it lands a bar later.

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Post by Vaughan » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:06 pm

In the file posted here, I actually did use the Measure Tool and it placed the changes correctly. Could one of you send me another file with that same problem for me to test with v. 26?
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Post by zuill » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:59 pm

What would be a better test would be for you to create a test file. In the default document, create 2 measure regions. In the first region, with the measure tool, uncheck the option to be included in measure number counting. Make sure that preferences is set (in the View window), to display Defined Measure Numbers. Now do the action [in the second region] in the Measure Tool and see if the change applies to the correct measure.

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Post by motet » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:02 am

Do the action to the second region.

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Post by zuill » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:06 am

Oops. I meant to say that, but forgot. I'll add it.

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