Old style tuplet creation

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Post by Mikefor » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:07 am

I am using Finale Version 25.3 on Mac.

Could someone please let me know how to do the sextuplets (violins & violas) exactly as in the attachment without causing problems for the staves above? I can do them as fully notated sextuplets but that makes score formatting more difficult. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.


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Post by motet » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:47 am

In Speedy entry, type Ctrl-1 and specify 6 sixteenths in the space of 1 quarter. Then enter a dotted quarter. Add the slashes with the Articulation tool.

In Simple entry, I think you can enter the dotted quarter and then specify the tuplet by pressing Alt-9.

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Post by Mikefor » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:25 am

motet wrote:In Speedy entry, type Ctrl-1 and specify 6 sixteenths in the space of 1 quarter. Then enter a dotted quarter. Add the slashes with the Articulation tool.

In Simple entry, I think you can enter the dotted quarter and then specify the tuplet by pressing Alt-9.
Hello Motet

Thank you for your reply.

The solutions work for the entry of an individual tuplet but they don't remain in the score when adding the next tuplet. Well... they don't remain for me...
They either revert to an ordinary crotchet (quarter note) or disappear. I think I'll just enter simple crotchets with slashes and a graphic dot with 6 over the top. It won't play back musically exactly but I can use long notation on a separate file for play back.

Thanks again & merry Christmas.

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Post by motet » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:58 am

You're likely doing something wrong, because I tried both entry methods as outlined above and they work for me. Simple entry is a bit easier, because you can make 6 sixteenths in the space of a quarter the default, and from then on just add the dotted quarter and press 9.

(For reasons known only to MakeMusic, the first "6" in each bar is off-kilter.)

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Post by Mikefor » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:48 am

Ok. I'll give it another try. Thanks again for your advice.

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Post by zuill » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:57 pm

I'm guessing you created one and then tried to copy/paste. Finale is worthless in that regard when it comes to many of the tuplets.

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Post by Mikefor » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:56 am

Yes, so I discovered. I hope they can come up with an easier method.
I really aporeciate the help on the Finale Forum.
Thanks again.

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Post by motet » Sat Dec 22, 2018 1:49 am

Hmm, I thought that might be the case and tried copying and it seemed OK.

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Post by motet » Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:16 am

If you think about it, since the slashes are cosmetic as far as Finale is concerned and not part of the rhythm, 6 sixteenths in the space of a quarter combined into a dotted quarter note is a quarter note, so anything that causes Finale to simplify or retranscribe the rhythm is going to produce a quarter note. What's unclear is what that "anything" is and why it does that.

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Post by Mikefor » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:09 am

Yes, I see your point.
Generally, I have not had any issue with tuplets until now-
I have been using Finale since 1996 (or possibly 97) and this was the first
time I got stumped. All good now.

Merry Christmas and happy New Year.

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