Slur tool erratic

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Slur tool erratic

Post by Raybird » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:36 pm

Finale 25.5.0.259 OSX 10.14.5

Greetings,

The slur tool octave lines are behaving erratically — they jump somewhere else after placement.

I am also having problems with weird clef signs which appear when unnecessary.

Any solutions or suggestions very welcome.

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by miker » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:21 pm

First try restarting the computer. If that doesn’t help, recreate the preferences and restart.
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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by motet » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:25 pm

Post a screen shot of the weird clef signs.

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by Raybird » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:45 pm

Hi Miker,

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.

The clef sign problem has been solved by editing the clef definition.

However, the main problem concerning the erratic 8ve lines only seems to occur in one piece. The others are fine.

I have tried restarts and resetting preferences with no positive result.

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Post by motet » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:29 pm

Make sure you're attaching the 8va sign to the right staff. Look at the cursor arrow.

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by motet » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:32 pm

Are you using independent time signatures?

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by Raybird » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:38 pm

Hi Motet,

Yes I am using independent time signatures...

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Post by motet » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:50 pm

It's a bug. What I do is draw the shape on a non-independent staff, then copy it. The other thing you can do is draw it, type Ctrl-D to reveal reality, nudge it, Carl-D again, etc., until it's right.

The big has been there forever, so they're not likely to fix it.

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Post by Raybird » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:02 pm

Thank you, Motet...

I do not have an independent staff, so I expect I'll have to find another way to draw the line.

Since resetting my preferences, weird things are happening ... when I cross-staff, or when I use Command D, the appearance changes and the number of bars per staff changes.

Control D seems to move the piece 3 pages further.

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by motet » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:33 pm

Look in the manual to see what the redraw/refresh command is on the Mac (Command-D?).

There's no reason to have every staff have an independent time signature. Pick one and make that the official, non-independent time signature, or add a new staff just long enough to draw the hairpins.
when I cross-staff, or when I use Command D, the appearance changes and the number of bars per staff changes.
If you have Automatic Update Layout turned off, turn it on (and leave it on).

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by Raybird » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:50 pm

Update layout is turned on.

This is obviously a "corrupted" piece.. in that I used a previous work as a template.

When I try to remove any independent time sigs. the music goes berserk, as it also does if I add a temporary new staff.

Oh... bother !

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by motet » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:31 pm

Try nudging the 8va with the arrows, then, refreshing in between.

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by Raybird » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:17 am

Eureka... just exported as XML and the new version has been "uncorrupted".

Quite a lot of "repairs" to be done, however, especially with special tools and cross staffing.

I have also eliminated the the independence of staffs.

Phew !

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Re: Slur tool erratic

Post by motet » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:24 am

I was going to suggest trying the 8va on all the staves. There may be one that's set to the underlying time signature even though marked independent.

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