Changing enharmonic Cb to B

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Post by wonder » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:27 am

There's another thread on the forum about changing enharmonic spellings of notes.

I have to change a few charts from F# to Gb and the musician wants all Cb's to read as B's.

I clicked on NOTE MOVER, then selected a single Cb note. Then clicked Search And Replace. I selected "In All Octaves", then "OK. Then clicked "Enharmonic".

Then I went to Search and clicked REPLACE ALL.

It didn't replace all the Cb's to B's. It looks like, as much as I can tell, it only replaced the ones on the actual visible screen. In any measures beyond what I could physically see, the notes weren't changed.

In a 60 page song, it's very tedious. Am I doing something wrong?

Is there a quicker way to change all Cb's to B's?
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Post by motet » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:39 am

That seems to be how it works. But if after you've selected the note you zoom all the way out (on Windows repeatedly press Ctrl+-) you can fit hundreds of pages on the screen. Then follow your steps above, starting with the search and replace.

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Post by N Grossingink » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:02 am

JW Change Pitches or full TG Tools Replace Pitches.

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Post by wonder » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:54 pm

I'll try both of these suggestions. Thank you for the replies!
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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:58 pm

I have to change a few charts from F# to Gb and the musician wants all Cb's to read as B's.
That would be musically incorrect. Technically you are not in the key of Gb if you do. There are no B naturals in Gb but there is Cb. That way you have you use the note B twice in the same scale. IE a B and a Bb.

Besides this would only be true for the non-transposing instruments?????
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Post by wonder » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:10 pm

In the world of being hired for jobs, I don't tell people how technically wrong their requests are. We're all aware of key signatures and music theory.

This is what they want. So I'm giving it to them.
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Post by zuill » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:31 pm

I believe that when you are in Scroll View, Search and Replace will go through the whole document. It did in my test anyway.

I just checked the documentation on this and there is no mention of a difference in behavior between Scroll View and Page View. However, my testing reveals this difference.

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Post by motet » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:17 pm

Good to know. What a bizarre tool that is.

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:56 pm

wonder wrote:In the world of being hired for jobs, I don't tell people how technically wrong their requests are. We're all aware of key signatures and music theory.

This is what they want. So I'm giving it to them.
Do you think your client would be offended by your telling him/her that Cb is equivalent to/has the same position on the instrument/ as Bn?
I'm just wondering, out of interest.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:31 pm

Do you think your client would be offended by your telling him/her that Cb is equivalent to/has the same position on the instrument/ as Bn?
I'm just wondering, out of interest.
I think it odd and am also curious, they didn't, rightfully like F# (usually piano music in that key) and preferred Gb but prefer B over Cb? For transposing instruments like Bb or Eb, it is preferable to use Gb and they should have no problem with Cb. It is also odd to have a B and a Bb in the same scale. Whatever.
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