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Post by jamesadrian » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:39 pm

I am having difficulty interpreting the instructions to make playback increase or decrease loudness gradually over an interval of time. I can pull up the smart shapes collection of icons but that is as far as I get.

I would appreciate an explanation in your own words. The words I have read haven't worked.

Thank you for your help.


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Post by zuill » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:43 pm

Human Playback automatically interprets hairpins, if that is what you are using. I don't know that you can have specific control over how Human Playback realizes the changes.

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Post by N Grossingink » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:18 pm

jamesadrian wrote:I can pull up the smart shapes collection of icons but that is as far as I get.
I assume you have gone the additional step of actually entering the hairpins. Is Human Playback turned on? If so, it will work as expected. Why don't you attach a Finale file so someone can take a look. Just the measures in question will be enough.
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Post by elbsound » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:05 am

Hairpins work better in playback if they end with a dynamic expression. Because - only then - the human playback knows the proper end volume and the gradual change before. If you don't want to see the dynamic expression in the score, use a dynamic expression with a hidden font.

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Post by Michel R E » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:16 am

and you can hide expressions on a case-by-case basis.
In Windows it's Ctrl+Alt+Shift+H (all the modifier keys in one shot, plus the letter H)
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Post by oldmkvi » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:47 pm

My experience with HP and Hairpins is that they stay within the original dynamic,
p crescs to mp and then back, for example.
Bigger crescs need an additional Expression, say mf or f, whatever.

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Post by Michel R E » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:05 pm

the standard interpretation is supposed to be:
hairpin swell without dynamic at mid point means 1 level change (ie: p - mp, or mp - mf).
hairpin swell WITH dynamic goes to target then returns to point of origin.

so HP is, in fact, interpreting it correctly.
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Post by jamesadrian » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:43 pm

I have no human playback settings set.

I don't know how to hide settings or why I should.

I don't know which menu to go to first or what to click on.

I want to make the playback vary in loudness.

Maybe somebody is willing to start at the beginning.

Thank you for your help.


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Post by N Grossingink » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:54 pm

First of all, make sure Human Playback is on. HP is what interprets and plays back the hairpins. It's under the MIDI/Audio menu as pictured below.
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Post by jamesadrian » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:52 am

N Grossingink,

Thank you for this essential information!

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