Problem with changing instrument more than once

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:38 pm

I thought I had seen something on this topic here, but didn't find it. When I use Utilities > Change Instrument, it works fine with the first change, but with the second it doesn't. For example, from the start I choose A Clarinet in Score manager, after x measures change to Bb Cl. with Utilities, and after x+n measures change back to A Cl. Only, the second change back to A Cl. doesn't happen really - the right key signature won't appear for a start. It is as if the program ignored it.

Strange, really, because if this is a bug, quite a few users would have mentioned it here. So, am I overlooking something quite obvious?
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Post by zuill » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:48 pm

I've seen this before. I can't recall if I was able to fix things. I believe I had to create an extra staff to recreate what is needed. I don't remember if I then copy/pasted to the real staff, or just deleted the old staff and used the new one to replace it. If I know ahead of time that the instrument will change back, I only highlight the internal measures and change those. We don't always know what will be needed, but if you do know, this workaround can help.

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:55 pm

Thanks for your reply. This is an engraving job from a finished manuscript, so I could select the exact number of measures for the change, but didn't succeed with that either.
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Post by Anders Hedelin » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:03 pm

Zuill, I'm not sure I got you right about creating an extra staff. Do you mean that the first (original) staff may have become corrupted?
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Post by zuill » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:04 pm

I believe once I backed up my preferences and recreated my preferences, but my memory is fuzzy on that. I always back up my preferences first in the event things don't get fixed, so I can reinstate them, as it takes a bit of work to get them where they were.

It might have been that a reboot of the computer helped. I just can't remember.

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Post by motet » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:04 pm

For switching to and from A clarinet I just use a staff style, since playback is going to be the same. I actually prefer it since it's easy to tell at a glance (from the Staff tool) what's in Bb and what's in A.

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Post by zuill » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:06 pm

Anders Hedelin wrote:Zuill, I'm not sure I got you right about creating an extra staff. Do you mean that the first (original) staff may have become corrupted?
Well, try another staff and see what happens. If that works, then maybe that's what is going on. This has been an elusive issue. Since I haven't seen it in a while, I just figured they had fixed it.

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Post by zuill » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:10 pm

Staff styles is another way. However, the Change Instrument feature allows one to hear the sound of the new instrument when entering, which has its advantages. This is helpful when the new instrument is a different sound. I know, in this case, that the instrument is basically the same. When it works, it is a powerful tool.

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:13 pm

Thanks motet! So obvious - when you know it!

You got ahead of me, Zuill. Thanks for your tip about playback, even if I don't use it very often. Now I know about it though.
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