Perfect Layout - Tremolo Adjustments

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Post by apkyburz » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:28 pm

Hi Forum,

I've started using Jan's PL and so far it's been a pretty big timesaver.

One question that I can't find the adjustment for:

In the attached pic, you can see that PL changes my tremolo's in a not-so-sightly way. I think it comes from the stem adjustments for 8th, 16th, etc. notes.

Maybe Jan or someone else could show me where I have to make the adjustments in the PL overview, I can't seem to find it.

Thanks.
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Post by motet » Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:44 pm

Looks OK to me except for the flagged eighth note. That probably should have two slashes instead of three anyway (flags and beams generally deduct from the number of slashes needed).

Or are you complaining about the color?

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Post by apkyburz » Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:02 pm

motet wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:44 pm
Looks OK to me except for the flagged eighth note. That probably should have two slashes instead of three anyway (flags and beams generally deduct from the number of slashes needed).

Or are you complaining about the color?
Hi Motet,

Yes, it's about the eight note. PL shortened the stem so that the tremolo covers the notehead.

No big thing when there's only a handful in a score, but it the work multiplies when there's a lot.

Where is the place in PL that I can disable/change the adjustment of stem lengths?

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:47 am

Again, I would only put two slashed on an eighth note. The eighth note stem is an octave long, which is normal.

If you insist, though, try running JW Yaddeh Yaddeh Tremolo after running PL.

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Post by apkyburz » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:57 pm

motet wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:47 am
Again, I would only put two slashed on an eighth note. The eighth note stem is an octave long, which is normal.

If you insist, though, try running JW Yaddeh Yaddeh Tremolo after running PL.
Perfect. Thank you for your answer.

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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:35 pm

Pl is not going to fix things that are not a normal practice. I agree that the eighth note should only have two slashes instead of three.
But the amount of adjustments and options in PL is daunting to say the least.
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Post by apkyburz » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:09 pm

ebiggs1 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:35 pm
Pl is not going to fix things that are not a normal practice. I agree that the eighth note should only have two slashes instead of three.
But the amount of adjustments and options in PL is daunting to say the least.
Yep, that was a misunderstanding on my part. The years I put three slashes on all notes for untimed trems…
Well, at least I know how to spell a c-major chord.

Thanks everyone.

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Post by motet » Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:30 pm

The slashes are really shorthand for beams, and some editions even use one or two for measured notes. So a triple-slashed eighth note is a 64th note, whereas triple-slashed quarters, halves, and whole notes are only 32nd notes. For tremolos, you pick something that's too fast to play measured, which is usually 32nds at typical tempi.

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Post by apkyburz » Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:10 pm

motet wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:30 pm
The slashes are really shorthand for beams, and some editions even use one or two for measured notes. So a triple-slashed eighth note is a 64th note, whereas triple-slashed quarters, halves, and whole notes are only 32nd notes. For tremolos, you pick something that's too fast to play measured, which is usually 32nds at typical tempi.
Awesome, thanks!

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