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On the attached page, see meas.3, the last note, which is an Eb.
I played an Eb and I know how to put a courtesy accidental on that note.
However, it would be nice if the program or settings put it in automatically.
Is there a way to make that happen?
I played an Eb and I know how to put a courtesy accidental on that note.
However, it would be nice if the program or settings put it in automatically.
Is there a way to make that happen?
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I have courtesy accidentals and naturals checked, and still they don't appear in score. Can't find JW Accidentals. Where is it? Possibly I have checked the wrong cautionary accidentals? Maybe I need some acci-dental work.
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The plug-in uses poor terminology. What it calls "Courtesy accidentals" is not something I think many people would want. It restates an accidental within the same measure. Maybe for very beginning players.
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Well, even advancing players benefit form it when a not so common key is played. Db or E major for instance. Just sayin'!Maybe for very beginning players.
In our community band sometimes the concept of an accidental in the beginning of the measure goes to the end of the measure gets overlooked.
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Sure, there may be special cases where it's warranted, even for more-advanced players. You can do that with the * key. But applying it wholesale is not something I think people would generally want to do, since it adds clutter.
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I have always composed or arranged with the thought of success. How can I make the piece successful for the group that will be playing it? I totally agree with you when I have an advanced or pro level group.
But most of the musicians I do work for have been playing for years. SOme 30 or 40 years but they are not pros.
Here is a piece I am doing for Bones Midwest for their Easter Concert.
It is a piece in Ab.
But most of the musicians I do work for have been playing for years. SOme 30 or 40 years but they are not pros.
Here is a piece I am doing for Bones Midwest for their Easter Concert.
It is a piece in Ab.
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Also if it is an uncommon note for the instrument like B natural.
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To return to the OP, a simple * with the numeric keyboard would do it. A global solution like those in the, not perfect, plug-ins might be useful, if you have a lot of courtesy accidentals, otherwise not I would think.
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I have never seen this. It looks like a mistake - like one of them should have a flat or sharp.
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There are those who advocate for doing it by hand, and since the plug-in has some problems, there's something to be said for that.
I deal with large pieces--thousands of measures--so don't trust myself to catch them all. Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet and write a Lua script to do the thing I want, which is "courtesy naturals", as the plug-in calls them.
I deal with large pieces--thousands of measures--so don't trust myself to catch them all. Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet and write a Lua script to do the thing I want, which is "courtesy naturals", as the plug-in calls them.
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I’d agree; it doesn’t look right to me, either.N Grossingink wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:12 pmScreen Shot 2019-12-20 at 1.08.56 PM.png
I have never seen this. It looks like a mistake - like one of them should have a flat or sharp.
A question, since I don’t write “no key signature, show all accidentals.” When doing this, do you still follow the rules of not repeating an accidental on a following note, and not on ties over barlines?
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You have never seen two B naturals in a measure? Hmmm...! The piece is in the key of Ab. Again restating, perhaps poorly, I compose and arrange for the group that will be playing the piece. If this makes them more successful than that is what I do.I have never seen this. It looks like a mistake - like one of them should have a flat or sharp.
If you think cautionary accidentals is warranted you should use them, if not don't. Simple.
Just because a person plays and instrument for years, perhaps many years, does not make them a professional player or even a pro level player. If it makes the group better, I do it. When I do stuff for KC Bones for instance, all performance majors, I don't.
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You just might be surprised! Perhaps in your world you deal with only experienced players. I, however, deal with all levels from 5th grade middle school to octogenarians. Again, I write for the group that will be performing the piece. That's not that difficult to understand is it?
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