Unable to Erase a note

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Post by Djard » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:43 am

I disabled "Check for extra notes" and "Fill with rests at end of measure" in "Simple Entry Options" to work on a complex tuplet, which I eventually decided not to write. As a result, Finale fell apart and left a note behind that I cannot erase. Even "Clear all items" fails to removed the unwanted note on my system. Anybody know how to erase the B note in measure 5 of Gtr. 1 in the attached document?
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Post by Bill Stevens » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:54 am

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Post by miker » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:47 am

Without seeing it, I would speculate that it’s not in the measure where you’re clicking on it. Try clicking a few notes ahead or behind it, and use the arrow keys to step your way to it. Then, it should select and allow you to delete it.
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Post by oldmkvi » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:09 pm

That's an Extra Note.
Check the Undo Box under Edit, delete stuff until it's gone.
That happened to me, from not checking Check for Extra Notes.
I recall losing a good bit of work because of that!

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Post by motet » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:06 pm

Right--the errant B is in measure 4.

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Post by Djard » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:46 pm

Miker's suggestion worked (thanks!), so no work was lost. My understanding is that the note could not be erased because it appeared in a measure different from that in which it was written. Here are the steps I used, which I will add to my own blogged guide (nearly 900 pages!)

1. Make sure correct layer is selected -> Speedy Entry Tool -> click in measure with stubborn note.
2. Use left/right arrow keys to scan for target note that may require looking in preceding or following measure.
3. Once found, select the unwanted note -> press "Delete" key. Optionally you may drag the note to the preceding or the following measure, where it can be erased as usual.

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:05 pm

Your writing for the guitar looks really nice! A thought though: I think you may do well without the "gliss." text on the the glissando line. A straight line between two notes - or two fingerings - meaning glissando is fairly common usage, I would think. The text is just clutter.
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Post by oldmkvi » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:13 pm

It's my understanding that a Straight Line is a Slide, which is different than a Chromatic Gliss.
Strings and Trombones can do it, other inst only a little, aided by lip and fingers.
Gary Burton gets his Vibes to slide between notes, very effective.
Chromatic is the standard for Jazz.

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Post by Anders Hedelin » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:21 pm

Straight-line glissandi are quite commonly written also for instruments which cannot produce a seamless glissando. They do it best they can, quasi-glissando-like.
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Post by Djard » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:06 am

In classical guitar music, a line between two identical numbers indicates movement of the numbered finger. If "gliss" is not added, the guitarist will not play a slide but merely use the same finger for the two notes. So adding "gliss." is necessary.

Elaine Gould, in her excellent, Behind Bars, correctly explains also that if a glissando does not include a slur then the terminating note is to be played distinctly. The latter is very rare in guitar music; I cannot recall a time when I did not add a slur.

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Post by motet » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:38 am

oldmkvi wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:13 pm
Gary Burton gets his Vibes to slide between notes, very effective.
Wikipedia says
Slide dampening can be used to dampen a note that is physically adjacent to the new note being struck. The player strikes the new note and then controls the rebound of the mallet so that it slides over and onto the note to be dampened. Sometimes slide dampening can make the new note sound "bent" or as if there is a glissando from the dampened note to the ringing one, as the two notes normally ring together for some short period of time.
I'm intrigued by this and would love to hear it. Do you by any chance have a Youtube pointer?

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Post by oldmkvi » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:27 am

I'll see what I can find.
I know I have some examples on CD or LP, and will check youtube!

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