One reason the bugs aren't getting fixed

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Post by miker » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:15 am

Is that a pretty wishy-washy description of “nothing much?”

That fits right in there with my rampant anticipation of more features like stacking articultions.
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Post by Anders Hedelin » Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:10 pm

Do they do weed too, these days? "50 grams per upgrade".
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Post by BuonTempi » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:06 am

  • Have you ever wished that you knew who was practicing the repertoire at home before the big performance?
  • Did you need to make a last-minute edit, but know you will lose valuable time trying to make and send out new PDFs?
  • Have you ever questioned if the ensemble that is about to perform your masterpiece will be performance-day ready?
This could be huge. For years, MDs have been trying to find a way to organize performers before the performance, to make sure they have all the right markings and are ready!

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Post by miker » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:48 pm

After reading the expanded blog post - https://www.finalemusic.com/blog/dont-l ... -fool-you/ - I have a question.

What the hell are you people thinking?

All that most of us want, is a program that works. Fix the bugs before giving us something that serves no purpose to anyone except your stockholders.
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Post by Anders Hedelin » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:55 pm

Ok, pardon my feeble joke earlier.

I have no desire that MM takes over the responsibilty for delivering correct materials on time to orchestras, ensembles and publishers. I've been quite capable of doing that myself, so far. My planning would, however, be safer if my workflow wasn't constantly hampered by Finale's numerous old shortcomings and bugs. Sometimes these are quite unforeseeable, which really can threaten your planning.

My impression is that MM now is taking the populist way, promising us a moon we didn't ask for, because the responsible, grown-up, dreary deficiency-fixing and bug-fixing isn't sexy enough.
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Post by motet » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:46 pm

Have you ever wished that you knew who was practicing the repertoire at home before the big performance?

Did you need to make a last-minute edit, but know you will lose valuable time trying to make and send out new PDFs?

Have you ever questioned if the ensemble that is about to perform your masterpiece will be performance-day ready?
1 and 3 sound like an invasion of privacy, but I suppose they have their place in a school setting. I don't know how 2 could be done except by everyone having Finale files and sending out patches, again something that's perhaps conceivable in a "Smart Music" setting but not otherwise.

3 also sounds like a Smart Music deal--perhaps the player plays along and validates they can play the part. But it sounds like the statement is directed at composers. Are they envisioning premiering a piece without rehearsals?

Honestly, it sounds like the folks at MakeMusic have little or no knowledge of how the orchestral world works.

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Post by miker » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:55 pm

Anders Hedelin wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:55 pm
My impression is that MM now is taking the populist way, promising us a moon we didn't ask for, because the responsible, grown-up, dreary deficiency-fixing and bug-fixing isn't sexy enough.
It works for the government.
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Post by miker » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:58 pm

BuonTempi wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:06 am
This could be huge. For years, MDs have been trying to find a way to organize performers before the performance, to make sure they have all the right markings and are ready!
They have also tried herding cats, with just about the same degree of success.
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Post by miker » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:00 pm

Anders Hedelin wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:10 pm
Do they do weed too, these days? "50 grams per upgrade".
I suspect that the 50 grams would help me more than this upgrade...
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Post by Anders Hedelin » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:07 pm

"Have you ever wished that you knew who was practicing the repertoire at home before the big performance?"
No.

"Did you need to make a last-minute edit, but know you will lose valuable time trying to make and send out new PDFs?"
No.

"Have you ever questioned if the ensemble that is about to perform your masterpiece will be performance-day ready?"
Yes, but I have no expectations whatsoever of MM solving that for me.
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Post by Anders Hedelin » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:22 pm

BuonTempi wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:06 am
This could be huge.
What could be potentially huge is the miscalculation.
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Post by BuonTempi » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:44 pm

Anders Hedelin wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:22 pm
BuonTempi wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:06 am
This could be huge.
What could be potentially huge is the miscalculation.
You may have missed the irony in my post.

This seems to be some kind of 'portal'. These sorts of things never catch on: I've been involved in several similar projects that planned to 'curate' and project manage various documents: but they've all failed, because the internet abhors a middle-man.

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Post by John Ruggero » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:48 pm

They may have concluded that they can't compete with Dorico on the engraving side and need to focus on the educational and church markets. It is such a shame that after all this time and effort, musicians still don't have the well-designed, practical and complete notational tool they need.
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