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Question about notating metronome speed

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:52 am
by Hector Pascal
Hi all,
Hope you are all going ok.

I am writing a piece and the time signature is 6/4 (with some bars of 5/4 here and there).

I feel that the piece sounds good at crotchet = 180.

I am wondering if it is ok to express this tempo with such a high number? It seems rather a big number! But it is a good tempo to my ear. I think the conductor would choose to conduct it as 2 beats in the 6/4 bar, or 6 if they're feeling energetic.

Have you seen crotchet = 180 before?,
Hector.

Re: Question about notating metronome speed

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:54 am
by ttw
Quarter note (crochet) at 180 should be no problem notation wise. Waltzes, especially Viennese Waltzes, tend to be danced from 162 to 180 or so.

Re: Question about notating metronome speed

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:04 am
by motet
If the conductor will beat in two, maybe dotted minim = 60.

Re: Question about notating metronome speed

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:00 am
by David Ward
I agree with Motet.

When you go into 5/4 for the first time you might add (crotchet = crotchet) for clarity.

As for the general question of 180, both the very different mechanical metronomes I have here (one nearly 10 ins tall with the traditional wooden pyramid case, the other a Wittner Super Mini, which is as small as the name suggests) go right up to mm = 208. I think 180 can be found in the Rite of Spring, for example.

Re: Question about notating metronome speed

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:14 am
by Hector Pascal
Thank you very much, everyone! Your help is much appreciated!
Cheers,
Hector.

Re: Question about notating metronome speed

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:10 pm
by RMK
There is a movement in the Hindemith sonata for Solo Viola Op.25 No.1 where he writes quarter note = 600.