Spacing anomaly with tie
Moderators: Peter Thomsen, miker
I'm noticing some strange behavior with music spacing and ties, and am wondering if I'm going a little crazy. Using note spacing, with a tie from the last note in the first measure to the first note in the second measure on second staff only, there's some extra unwanted space at the end of the first measure. When I remove the tie from that note, the spacing issue goes away. Images are attached. However, the tie on the first staff does not affect the spacing one way or another! What am I missing here? There seems no way to correct this. I've tried to clear manual adjustments, both via Document Options > Spacing and via Edit > Clear Selected Items.
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Finale 26.1
iMac 21.5" mid-2011 running Sierra
Finale 26.1
iMac 21.5" mid-2011 running Sierra
- N Grossingink
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- Finale Version: 27.3
- Operating System: Mac
What music font are you using? It's not a Finale font. As an experiment, change the music font to Maestro, the standard Finale font (Document Menu > Change Default Music Font). If that doesn't work, attach a small sample file (those 2 measures)
N. Grossingink
Educational Band, Orchestra and Jazz Ensemble a specialty
Sample: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pFF5OeJDeLFGHMRyXrubFqZWXBubErw4/view?usp=share_link
Mac Mini 2014 2.6 Ghz, 8Gb RAM
OSX 10.15.7
Finale 2012c, 25.5, 26.3, 27.3
Educational Band, Orchestra and Jazz Ensemble a specialty
Sample: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pFF5OeJDeLFGHMRyXrubFqZWXBubErw4/view?usp=share_link
Mac Mini 2014 2.6 Ghz, 8Gb RAM
OSX 10.15.7
Finale 2012c, 25.5, 26.3, 27.3
If I break the beam in the upper staff, the spacing issue does occur there as well. Interesting.
The font I am using is Golden Age. I've attached an excerpt Finale file with the font reverted to Maestro. The issue is still there.
The font I am using is Golden Age. I've attached an excerpt Finale file with the font reverted to Maestro. The issue is still there.
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- Variation 9 in E-flat copy test.musx
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Finale 26.1
iMac 21.5" mid-2011 running Sierra
Finale 26.1
iMac 21.5" mid-2011 running Sierra
I've done a little more exploring with this, and it seems that this isn't an anomaly with this document but rather standard Finale behavior, which is regulated by the "minimum distance between notes with ties" setting. What should occur, I think, is that Finale should apply this minimum distance value differently when the tie goes across the barline from a flagged note, since the flag already allots extra horizontal space. There's no reason for extra horizontal space for both the flag and the tie. My plan is to reduce that value from the default 0.1666 to about 0.1. As long as I don't try to squeeze too many measures on a system, I think that should still be reasonable for ties that occur within the measure.
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Finale 26.1
iMac 21.5" mid-2011 running Sierra
Finale 26.1
iMac 21.5" mid-2011 running Sierra