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jose oscar
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Post by jose oscar » Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 am

How could I Copy & Paste TEXT of m. 1-2 into m. 3-4?

I appreciate your answers


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Post by Bill Stevens » Sat May 23, 2020 11:23 am

That text is attached to the page. You will need something attached to the note, such as an expression.

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Post by jose oscar » Sat May 23, 2020 11:26 am

Thank you very much, Bill

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Post by zuill » Sat May 23, 2020 4:02 pm

Doing fingerings has been a longstanding frustration in Finale when it comes to stacking. Before v26, there are 2 good options for stacking fingerings: 1) Create Articulation Shapes where you create preset stacks or 2) Create expressions. If using Articulations, the 1-5 are already there-just create a set of Shape Articulations for the stacked ones. With Expressions, create single, double, triple, etc. fingerings. You might want to create a separate Category for these.

In v26, with the new stacking paradigm, the preset fingerings are selected to stack by default. I just tested it and it looks like it would simplify things, and you wouldn't need any custom fingerings. The only issue with using v26 is that you will have some editing to do if you choose to open the file in an earlier version of finale, as the new stacking paradigm is not designed to be compatible with earlier versions. I think the programmers may have considered this and program a way to avoid the problem, but that must have been either undoable or considered not worth the time.

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P.S.: In this picture, the first 2 bars were as you had it. Bars 3-4 were done quickly using the 1-5 metatools, and v26 stacked them automatically.
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Post by jose oscar » Sat May 23, 2020 4:39 pm

Thank you very much, zuill.

1) I'm tryng just now to create a 2 finger articulation such a 5
2

but I cannot see the way to do it.

2) As for the second alternative, create an expression:

I created the same but I cannot Paste at all. Did I miss some step?
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Post by zuill » Sat May 23, 2020 5:24 pm

You are correct. I selected both Expression options with the filter and your special category isn't recognized. So, I guess you'll have to have it in the Misc. category. Sorry. Also, you had it set to attach to the Left barline. Maybe choose center over the noteheads.

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Post by jose oscar » Sat May 23, 2020 5:52 pm

1) I created a new category of expressions I called 2mías"

2)I did:
Edit text expression definition/Positioning/
then I canot move anything at all
How do I choose center over the noteheads?
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Post by zuill » Sat May 23, 2020 6:21 pm

The Category is set to left barline. Either edit the Category position, or uncheck to use the category setting, and set it for just the one Expression.

However, the Edit filter seems to not recognize custom Categories, so you won't be able to copy/past just the Expressions. Maybe use the Shape Articulation option instead of the Expression option.

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Post by zuill » Sat May 23, 2020 6:26 pm

I created a test document and had no problem copying an Expression in a new category, so I don't yet know why yours isn't, so give me a bit more time to test it out.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat May 23, 2020 6:30 pm

zuill wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 6:21 pm
… However, the Edit filter seems to not recognize custom Categories, so you won't be able to copy/past just the Expressions …
For What It Is Worth - unfortunately I am unable to duplicate this issue (in Finale v26).

I just tried it - created a custom expression category, created an expression in the category.
And I was able to copy the expression via the Copy Filter.

Can someone provide exact steps to reproduce this issue?
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Post by zuill » Sat May 23, 2020 6:37 pm

Figured it out. You (OP) duplicated a Category that uses a Score List. Those can only be copy/pasted using a Measure Stack. Duplicate a category that doesn't use a Score List and you should be okay.

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Post by jose oscar » Sat May 23, 2020 7:40 pm

Thank you very much, zuill, Peter and bill,
I tried , as zuill said , duplicating another category, Technique Text, and I can copy it now.

Then the route is:

Expression selection tool/Edit categories/Technikque text/Duplicate/Category name/mías/OK/OK

Create mías/5
2

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