Can't hide staves

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Post by ewindels » Sun May 31, 2020 10:59 pm

This damn document is driving me crazy:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5ho2mn5nkrvo ... .musx?dl=0

No matter what I try, I can't hide staves from mm. "263 - 290".
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Post by michelp » Sun May 31, 2020 11:15 pm

Try clearing the staff style from theses staves.
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Post by motet » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:20 am

I have no trouble hiding them without removing staff styles. I only tried the system 265-270.

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Post by ewindels » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:03 pm

I've cleared staff styles, I've cleared everything from the empty measures in case there was something I wasn't aware of. Still nothing.

From 290 on, it's fine.

ARGH!
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Post by Michel R E » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:02 pm

I selected "all" then "hide empty staves" and it worked on the whole document.

you can't hide "from 263" since that's halfway through a system. you'd have to start hiding at 261.
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Post by ewindels » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:44 pm

Still nothing.

Can someone who's been able to accomplish this send me their version of the doc? I'm baffled.

Maybe it's me or my system and I need to reinstall.
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Post by motet » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:05 am

How are you going about trying to hide them? Use the Staff tool, select the first measure "stack" of the system, and use Hide Empty Staves from the Staff menu.

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Post by ewindels » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:07 am

Yup. And nothing.

But as I say, from mm. 290 on it works fine. I can't figure out what's in the middle that's preventing it.
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Post by zuill » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:40 am

I can't imagine that it would be the Actual vs. Defined Measures bug, but who knows.

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Post by motet » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:52 am

Only one measure region.

Here you go, Ed:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ufvelmhzlqhu ... .musx?dl=0

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Post by ewindels » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:52 pm

Thanks, motet. Did you have to do anything unusual? I still can't figure out why my version won't do this.
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Post by motet » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:22 pm

No--Page view, Staff tool, select all, Hide Empty Staves on the Staff menu.

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Post by ewindels » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:32 pm

OK, the bug is happening somewhere in the process of resizing the pages. The template document is set to 40%. Motet, I've been able to merge / implode staves fine with the document you sent me. But if I try to resize the entire document, or even just one page, the following page, still at 40%, won't permit staves to be hidden.

I've saved it again to Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/s/k9yt94evbusc8 ... .musx?dl=0

Page one obviously needs some staff resizing, but see page 2: no matter what I do, it will not let me hide those empty staves. And this only happened once I tried to resize the pages.
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Post by motet » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:48 pm

Happens for me, too.

I'd think you want to hide before resizing, since how many staves there are influences what kind of resizing you need. If you look at a professionally printed score, you'll see different sizes from page to page.

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Post by ewindels » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:09 pm

That's what I'm doing: imploding staves, then trying to hide the empty ones, and resizing based on the remaining staves.

It must be something with this document. The last project I did, also in 2014.5, did not have this issue.
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Post by ewindels » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:00 pm

Well, since you'r all likely to lose sleep over this, I figured it out (or something):

I removed the huge number of unused percussion instruments (from the preceding document). Then applied broad music spacing to the entire document, cleared Manual Positioning, respaced, and boomed: everything hides that should. Go figure.
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Post by ewindels » Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:54 pm

Argh: not only is it still doing it, but it's now reordering my staves when I try to hide. Even when I unhide all staves, the order is all over the place.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xl9dd5xsk2rw6 ... .musx?dl=0
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Post by motet » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:07 pm

There have been reports before of troubles caused by reusing old scores. You might try going the Export/Import XML route. You'll have some cleanup to do, but maybe it will clear up some of these mysteries.

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Post by ewindels » Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:50 pm

Yeah, I figured it might be something like that. Good thing I still have the template.
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