Secondary Beams over rests in Layers
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Is this a bug??
If you have "Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests" selected in the Beams section of the Doc Options AND you have "Consolidate Rests" in the Layers section checked then the secondary beams will only extend over rests for the active layer! Weird. (This behaves like this in a fresh default document.). See the pictures. In the first pic Layer 1 is active, second picture Layer 2. And this isn't just a screen drawing issue, depending on which layer is active it will print like that.
Finale 26.2, Mac OSX - Catalina.
If you have "Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests" selected in the Beams section of the Doc Options AND you have "Consolidate Rests" in the Layers section checked then the secondary beams will only extend over rests for the active layer! Weird. (This behaves like this in a fresh default document.). See the pictures. In the first pic Layer 1 is active, second picture Layer 2. And this isn't just a screen drawing issue, depending on which layer is active it will print like that.
Finale 26.2, Mac OSX - Catalina.
- zuill
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You can leave that option on if it works for most of the document. Then, for those measures with 2 layers, use Jari's JW Change plugin to easily fix this. You can first remove the option for combining rests for just that measure (or measures) and then use the plugin to center the rests, which will combine them.
Zuill
Zuill
Windows 10, Finale 2011-v26.3.1
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
Ah, good fix Zuill!
I guess it is a bug though. It's definitely related to the "Consolidate Rests" feature, or a combination of both features being active at the same time. When you turn off the automatic "Consolidate Rests" feature it doesn't behave like this; even if you manually combine the rests - which is effectively what the JW plug-in is doing evidently.
Thanks for the idea Zuill. Wonder if anyone has reported this as a bug. Hmmmm...
I guess it is a bug though. It's definitely related to the "Consolidate Rests" feature, or a combination of both features being active at the same time. When you turn off the automatic "Consolidate Rests" feature it doesn't behave like this; even if you manually combine the rests - which is effectively what the JW plug-in is doing evidently.
Thanks for the idea Zuill. Wonder if anyone has reported this as a bug. Hmmmm...
- miker
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I had a similar issue years ago, where if you had triplets in both layers where the first entry was a rest, strange things happened. I think it would only display the bracket on one or the other.
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- motet
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It's certainly a bug, and it's bizarre that turning on Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests breaks the beam on the first two sixteenths of the non-active layer of beat 4--there's not even a rest there!
TGTools has a function "Join rests of multiple layers," which does the right thing. I think it does what JC Change does as described by Zuill above--it moves them on top of each other.
TGTools has a function "Join rests of multiple layers," which does the right thing. I think it does what JC Change does as described by Zuill above--it moves them on top of each other.