Note mover search and replace infinite loop

[montedoro44]

I just learned about this note-mover capability on a downloaded quintet. When I tried Gb > F# search & replace all, Finale went into infinite loop, requiring that I shut it down. After experimenting with this disaster -- always resulting in shut-downs -- I finally found that it worked, not on the 5-staff score, but on individual parts. Then I wrote a default-doc duet so as to exclude download gremlins, and same thing. Is this natural behavior -- operate on only one staff at a time or disaster?

[zuill]

I have never had that behavior. However, anything is possible. If you can post a problem file here, maybe we can help troubleshoot the issue.

Zuill

[montedoro44]

Attached, an experimental file. It is consistent -- on the score it hesitates for about 5 seconds, then the rotating death circle begins, and any key-press grays out the screen until ctrl-alt-del, but in the single-staff part it works instantly.

Also, in the score, if I escape before the circle of death starts, then the process stops and I can go on, but no changes are made. Once, I noticed that it did change one other Gb though.

[miker]

I always select a line, first. I don't know if that makes any difference.

[montedoro44]

I tried to select a line, but clicking Note Mover deselects it. And once Note Mover is invoked, I don't see how to select a line. One would think that when you select the measure and a note within the measure that you want changed, that that would be enough to indicate the line I want. But I have many trios, quartets, et al. -- shouldn't this work for all-staves-at-once?

[zuill]

That utility is archaic. It has always been difficult to use, and quite unintuitive. You'd be better off using Jari's JW Change Pitches plugin.

Zuill

[montedoro44]

Thanks, zuill. I got the plug-in and it is exactly right. Thanks, Jari Williamsson!

[Bill Stevens]

Small world.

I wrote a fingerstyle guitar piece of the same name for my daughter about 20 years ago which I have recently been updating since I'm playing more guitar in the lockdown.

::: Bill

[montedoro44]

Just a note for future forum-seekers who wander here: I used the JW Change Pitches plug-in a few times, and it worked perfectly at first. Then it stopped working -- it turns out that it responds to concert-pitch note definitions, and since many of my pieces are transposed to F for French horn (4th down or 5th up), it couldn't find the notes I specified. But maybe it made some changes to notes that I didn't want changed. Live & learn.

[motet]

I noticed that JW Accidentals doesn't work right with transposing instruments, either.

[zuill]

Just a note for future forum-seekers who wander here: I used the JW Change Pitches plug-in a few times, and it worked perfectly at first. Then it stopped working -- it turns out that it responds to concert-pitch note definitions, and since many of my pieces are transposed to F for French horn (4th down or 5th up), it couldn't find the notes I specified. But maybe it made some changes to notes that I didn't want changed. Live & learn.

If you put it in Concert View and do the change, that works. Maybe that is not the best scenario.

Zuill

[montedoro44]

Thanks, zuill -- all is good, I can transpose between concert & F. It just took me a while to figure out that's what I need to do. Another revelation I stumbled on recently that fixed several vexing problems is that some operations work only in the score, not the parts.

[Peter Thomsen]

… I can transpose between concert & F …

No need to transpose to Concert Pitch.

Just use the Document menu:

Document menu > Display in Concert Pitch

[montedoro44]

Thanks, Peter, I know about Display in concert Pitch, and I've called on it once or twice for easier error fixing. But I've been a French-horn player for 60 years, and transposing comes with horn playing. OTOH, it was a transposing emergency in 2014 that propelled me to try Finale(Notepad). When it saved me, I bought in.