barline missing, how to show it again?

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Post by drumstudio2000 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:03 pm

Hi, If I have 2 bars of music and apply a custom staff style I have made, the right barline of my 1st measure is gone.
I checked my meassure attribute is not as invisible (is set as normal) but barline is still missing.
What Im doing wrong? Could anyone help me to get the barline back?
THANKS!
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Post by zuill » Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:35 pm

Check Staff Attributes for that staff. Since the barline is only missing on one staff, and since the Staff Style is not set to turn off barlines, then that is my guess. Or, post the file here and we can check it out.

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Post by drumstudio2000 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:32 pm

zuill wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:35 pm
Check Staff Attributes for that staff. Since the barline is only missing on one staff, and since the Staff Style is not set to turn off barlines, then that is my guess. Or, post the file here and we can check it out.

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Hi, this is my staff attribute. Do you see something wrong? thanks
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Post by zuill » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:35 pm

Then I guess we will need to see a file with this misbehavior.

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Post by drumstudio2000 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:56 pm

zuill wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:35 pm
Then I guess we will need to see a file with this misbehavior.

Zuill
Ive attached the file. thanks
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Post by zuill » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:51 pm

It appears that when you defined the Staff Style, you created barlines with 0 above and 0 below the single line. In inches, you might choose .083 above and -.083 below, to match the way Finale has it for the stock definition for the single staff line Staff Style with short barline.

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:47 pm

I am having the same issue. I have a long score of 50 pages. I am using tic barlines, a custom half barline (as in plainchant), and normal, double, and final barlines.

Twice now I have had to go re-insert EVERY custom half barline, because they have disappeared and do not appear in print or PDF scores. I have not changed any settings between when they appear and when they disappear. All other barlines are working fine, only the custom barline is disappearing. I've never experienced this before.

This is maddening. How do I fix this so they stay permanently?

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Post by zuill » Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:49 pm

May we examine the misbehaving file?

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:56 pm

Certainly. How do I get it to you?

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Post by zuill » Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:59 pm

You can upload it here, if you want. Otherwise, I guess you can send an attachment in a PM on this Forum.

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:06 pm

Just sent it to you Zuill in a private message.

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Post by zuill » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:11 pm

I don't see an attachment in your PM.

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:24 pm

It said the file was attached successfully. I'll try again.

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Post by zuill » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:27 pm

Still not there. I sent a reply with an attachment to see if the process works.

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Post by motet » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:51 pm

Just reply here, then click "Attachments."

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:54 pm

There's a 150kb maximum file size, which I hadn't noticed. Tiny files only!

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Post by zuill » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:08 pm

I see Bar 40 has the Custom Barline chosen. What shape did you use for that? Right now it's showing Shape 1, which is the MM Rest Shape.

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:11 pm

I use shape 79 which I created. Screenshots attached. If it is showing #1, it changed that somehow through the entire piece. I did not change it.
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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:14 pm

It should be the right-hand bar in measures 6, 25, 29, 31, 34, 37, 39, 40, 41, 46 ... and many more after that.

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Post by motet » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:50 pm

Did you use the Measure tool to change other attributes after specifying the barline? It looks like if you do that it changes the shape to shape 1. A bug, I guess.
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You might be able to get around it by making your shape shape 1, if that's possible.

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:54 pm

I might have, I don't remember for sure. I will copy 79 to no. 1 in case it happens again. Sure seems like a bug! Thanks for your help.

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Post by motet » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:15 pm

Alas, that doesn't seem to fix it. It correctly points to the (new) number 1, but displays as a blank. I guess you'll have to do them last thing.

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:08 pm

This seems like something serious enough Finale ought to want to fix it!

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Post by motet » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:37 pm

You should file a problem report.

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Post by ljlmusic » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:49 pm

I thought this was a Finale-run forum. Aren't you guys working for Finale?

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