Keyboard glissandi bug?

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dallascomposer
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Post by dallascomposer » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:15 am

I am finding that glissandi on any keyboard instrument does not play correctly if the initial pitch is a black key. Instead, I get a rapidly repeated note matching the initial pitch.

Normally, when live HP doesn't work, I find that applying Human Playback to a small section of a score using the MIDI tool still works correctly, but in this case, it delivers the same result.

I have submitted a support request to MakeMusic, but was wondering if anyone had any workarounds that don't involve two separate files.
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Post by motet » Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:13 pm

I can't get the glissando SmartShape to play back at all. It doesn't seem to attach to an ending note.

Can you attach a sample .musx file of what you're trying to do?

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Post by dallascomposer » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:32 pm

Here's a simple example I made.

Note: This plays back correctly in a singe-staff, but in a Grand Staff, I get a single repeated note.
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Post by zuill » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:15 pm

I did find this as well. Human playback has had many problems since its beginning. If you set the preferences to Diatonic, it works properly. However, that is a global setting for the whole document, and isn't appropriate for other instruments. If you apply HP to just a measure or measures, and turn HP off, you get the proper playback for that measure. However, with HP on, it overrides the hidden notes and plays the erroneous notes. What one would need to do is turn HP off for the whole score, then apply the plugin universally. Lastly, go back to those measures with the erroneous playback, set the HP preferences to diatonic, and reapply it for just those measures.

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Post by Michel R E » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:29 pm

a bug of sorts seems to have slid into Finale 26 as far as glissandi are concerned.
I can't get a grand staff glissando to work if the starting not is in one staff and the ending note is in the other (in other words, up or down).
However, if I place both notes in the same staff, and use the Note Mover tool to move which ever note I need to be in a different staff, then the glissando works.

I just tried it with both piano and harp. And it does work this way.
But somehow, Finale is not recognizing the grand staff as a single instrument. (or something like that)
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