Creating Rubato for playback

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Post by ry1633 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:45 pm

It's been a long time since I've had to do this in Finale, so long that I've forgotten. I'm using Finale v26.3.1.520 (Windows 10) now and I'd imagine it is different now. How do you create rubato in the Finale playback for a short span of measures.


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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:00 pm

There are two types of rubato:

1) The tempo is constant, and the solo part is a little ahead of or a little behind the accompaniment.

2) The tempo going up and down, being sometimes a little faster, sometimes a little slower than the “general” tempo.

Which one do you need?
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Post by ry1633 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:26 am

Yup, sorry for not being a bit more specific. #2 of what you list is more what I need for this particular example I am working on in Finale. Brief tempo fluctuations over a small span of measures. How do I get the Playback or Expression settings to reflect this?

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Post by Hector Pascal » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:23 am

I needed this in my score the other day and here's how I did it:
I put metronome markings at the exact places where they were appropriate, and then I used an accel. expression and a rall. expression before or after the metronome markings, as appropriate. Then (using the contextual menu, right click? 2-fingertap?) I chose not to show the metronome expressions etc. Then at playback, Finale recognises the hiding tempos and also the hiding accelerando and rallentando expressions. Playback turned out pretty good.
Hope that helps!
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Post by heinzfan » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:40 pm

For a more precise playback another way would be to use the midi tool to scale or set note duration and/or tempo. The drawback is that the midi changes are only visible while the tool is open, so I usually put a hidden text expression as a reminder.
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Post by ttw » Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:03 pm

A quick but not necessarily repeatable method is to use the rubato in the Human Playback. It can be set from 0 to 100%. HP uses some algorithm to assign the exact rubato. I've used a bit now and then but you have little control (except for the overall amount.)

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Post by ry1633 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:24 pm

I couldn't really get the Rubato function in the playback settings to work to my liking. But using hidden expressions tied to tempo fluctuations seemed to work pretty well. I need to tweak it some more but I think I am getting there with it.

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