natural with arrow up from maestro percussion different dimensions

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Post by soundcardB » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:09 pm

Hi,
i was wondering why the natural with arrow up from finale percussion font has different dimensions from maestro font natural, flats and sharps of maestro font are same size of flats and sharps with arrows of the maestro percussion font...
Any idea?

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:31 pm

My guess ia that it is a matter of being consequent.

If you - instead - examine the arrow-less flat and natural accidentals, you will see a similar height difference at the stem top:
The (arrow-less) flat’s stem ends about one Point higher than the (arrow-less) natural’s stem.
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Post by soundcardB » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:45 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:31 pm
My guess ia that it is a matter of being consequent.

If you - instead - examine the arrow-less flat and natural accidentals, you will see a similar height difference at the stem top:
The (arrow-less) flat’s stem ends about one Point higher than the (arrow-less) natural’s stem.
no... the flats symbols are very similar, the natural one if you look at the "bold lines" are really different, it's not a matter or where the line finishes but how the symbol is represented... Also if you insert just the natural from maestro percussion it is identical to the maestro one but the natural with arrow up is different.

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i don't know if i was clear enough...

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Post by soundcardB » Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:50 pm

oh ok, i now understood what you told... i misunderstanded.
Mmm yes, it could be but it continues to feel wrong to my eyes, but maybe it is just my perception, same symbol is on ligeti string quartet n.2 and it is the same as the normal natural but with arrow...
I also tried the one in the engraver font but the arrow is not noticeable, really a pity that there isn't the normal natural with arrow.

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Post by zuill » Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:46 pm

The natural in Maestro Percussion without the arrows looks the same as in Maestro, but the shape with the up arrow and also the down arrow has a different shape than in Maestro. Curious that they didn't bother to match them.

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Post by soundcardB » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:04 am

zuill wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:46 pm
The natural in Maestro Percussion without the arrows looks the same as in Maestro, but the shape with the up arrow and also the down arrow has a different shape than in Maestro. Curious that they didn't bother to match them.

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exactly this is what makes me perplexed

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Post by zuill » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:35 pm

Have you reported this to MakeMusic?

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Post by soundcardB » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:45 pm

No, but since i use an original license of finale 26, if you tell me how to do it i can do it from my account...

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Post by zuill » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:53 pm

Log in to your account, click on Contact Us, and there's a link there to submit a request.

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Post by soundcardB » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:21 pm

DID IT, thanks :)

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Post by zuill » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:29 pm

Please let us know when they respond and what they say. It might be that things will get fixed if we have more users report the issue. In the past, we were able to get the Finale Lyrics font fixed when it was missing much needed characters that were omitted. They responded fairly quickly with a font update. However, when new versions of Finale came out, they went back to the old font. I keep the fixed font file for future use when a new version of Finale reverts back to the old, damaged font file.

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Post by soundcardB » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:23 pm

zuill wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:29 pm
Please let us know when they respond and what they say. It might be that things will get fixed if we have more users report the issue. In the past, we were able to get the Finale Lyrics font fixed when it was missing much needed characters that were omitted. They responded fairly quickly with a font update. However, when new versions of Finale came out, they went back to the old font. I keep the fixed font file for future use when a new version of Finale reverts back to the old, damaged font file.

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Yes :) it would be great since it is not a very common symbol but also not very unused, useful for all a little bit high pitched sounds in flute multiphonics and so on

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Post by soundcardB » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:27 pm

Ok they replied and told me that they are going to fix it in the next version of finale probably :)

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Post by BuonTempi » Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:44 am

Presumably, the percussion symbols will all be in the new FinaleMaestro SMuFL font, and that will be where the fix is.

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