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Post by boldest06 » Mon May 10, 2021 8:23 am

Hello everyone.
What is the best way to create this symbols (<>)?
I have to copy it several times.
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Post by Bill Stevens » Mon May 10, 2021 10:43 am

If you have the November font, it is there (messa di voce).

Or you can create a shape in the Shape Designer. That's a bit of a fuss, but you only have to do it once.

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Post by elbsound » Mon May 10, 2021 1:35 pm

As Bill writes, this symbol is included in many fonts, see the list on my "Catalog of Music Symbols" page here:
https://elbsound.studio/catalog-of-musi ... essadivoce

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Post by miker » Mon May 10, 2021 2:33 pm

It's in Bravura, as well. Which is free!
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Post by boldest06 » Tue May 11, 2021 3:00 pm

Bill Stevens wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 10:43 am
If you have the November font, it is there (messa di voce).
Or you can create a shape in the Shape Designer. That's a bit of a fuss, but you only have to do it once.
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Thanks for the advice. I tried with Shape Designer but I can not make it.
elbsound wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 1:35 pm
As Bill writes, this symbol is included in many fonts, see the list on my "Catalog of Music Symbols" page here:
https://elbsound.studio/catalog-of-musi ... essadivoce
Thank you. I found this in the free demo of the Elbsound Music Font PagniFIN and for me it's perfect, but I am an amateur and I always used the font 'Maestro'.
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miker wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 2:33 pm
It's in Bravura, as well. Which is free!
Sorry but I can't find it.
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Post by zuill » Tue May 11, 2021 3:06 pm

Curious: does HP respond to the characters in the various fonts, or is this for look only?

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Post by miker » Tue May 11, 2021 4:05 pm

miker wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 2:33 pm
It's in Bravura, as well. Which is free!
Sorry but I can't find it.
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The font is here: https://github.com/steinbergmedia/bravura

To find the character, a utility like PopChar is invaluable: https://www.ergonis.com/products/popcharx/
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Post by boldest06 » Wed May 12, 2021 7:38 pm

zuill wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 3:06 pm
Curious: does HP respond to the characters in the various fonts, or is this for look only?

Zuill
Sorry, I do not understand. What do you mean?
miker wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 4:05 pm
The font is here: https://github.com/steinbergmedia/bravura
Thank you. I installed and found the symbol but the rest of the symbols don't match.
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Post by miker » Wed May 12, 2021 8:54 pm

Use the original Finale font for the document. Create the character as a miscellaneous expression.

Go to your expression tool, miscellaneous category. Tap Create Misc. Expression. In the next screen, enter the character. It will look wrong. Select it, and in the pull down menu below it, scroll to Bravura. You may have to fiddle with the size. I chose 24.

Standard HP does not recognize it.
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Post by zuill » Thu May 13, 2021 2:14 am

boldest06 wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:38 pm
zuill wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 3:06 pm
Curious: does HP respond to the characters in the various fonts, or is this for look only?

Zuill
Sorry, I do not understand. What do you mean?
There were offers from those suggesting that a font character could be used to get the look you want. Smart Shape hairpins in Finale cause the swell you want (cresc./dim.). HP (Human Playback) causes this playback. I was hoping that someone would be able to say if you would get that same playback with a font character. I've used HP for years, and my guess to my question is no. So, if you need playback, then you'll need real hairpins to get that result.

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Post by boldest06 » Thu May 13, 2021 8:48 am

miker wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 8:54 pm
Use the original Finale font for the document. Create the character as a miscellaneous expression.

Go to your expression tool, miscellaneous category. Tap Create Misc. Expression. In the next screen, enter the character. It will look wrong. Select it, and in the pull down menu below it, scroll to Bravura. You may have to fiddle with the size. I chose 24.
Thank you!
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zuill wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 2:14 am
There were offers from those suggesting that a font character could be used to get the look you want. Smart Shape hairpins in Finale cause the swell you want (cresc./dim.). HP (Human Playback) causes this playback. I was hoping that someone would be able to say if you would get that same playback with a font character. I've used HP for years, and my guess to my question is no. So, if you need playback, then you'll need real hairpins to get that result.

Zuill
Thank you for the clarification.
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