slur leading into 2nd time bar of repeat

[Florio60]

If the first note in the 2nd time bar of a repeat is under a slur (from the bar preceding the 1st time bar), how is it possibile to indicate this? Hidden notes?

Florio

[miker]

A slur, or a tie? You can easily manipulate slurs by their handles. A tie, on the other hand, would be done by selecting the first note in the ending, and tapping Shift-T. (At least, that's how it works in Simple, on a Mac.)

[Florio60]

Thanks for your reply. I'm talking about a slur. Since a slur is normally created by clicking on the first of the notes to be slurred, I cannot do that in this case (the slur begins in the bar preceding the 1st and 2nd time bars and extends to the first note in both the 1st and 2nd time bars). The slur is obviously present in the 1st time bar; if I copy and paste this bar in the 2nd time bar, the slur disappears.

Florio

[motet]

Double-click-drag on the last note you want slurred-to and drag it backwards to look how you want.

[zuill]

In my picture, it shows how it can look. I was surprised to see that the note that it is attached to is the note before the first ending. That might indicate playback will also work. Hard to tell without further testing.

Update: I just tested this further. Playback does recognize the slur to the second ending, in my example.

Zuill

[motet]

I was surprised to see that the note that it is attached to is the note before the first ending.

I'm not sure what you mean. How did you create it? In what way is it attached to is the note before the first ending?

Finally, do you tweak the ending brackets, or is that an improvement with Finale 2x? They look terrible by default in my version (and I can never remember which of the myriad handles do what).

[Florio60]

Thanks everyone for your replies; you've been a great help. The example provided by motet is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about. I've now managed to create the slur by 'dragging backwards'. The end result isn't perfect by I can play around with the curvature later.

Florio

[zuill]

I am not sure how it got attached to the note before the endings. Upon trying it again, as well as in 2014.5, I drag the front of the tie over to that note and then drag the end back. Once I'm finished fine-tuning the look, when I select the slur handle, it still highlights the note before the endings, which is then recognized in playback.

The look of the endings was an option starting in v25.

Zuill

[motet]

I think I see what you mean. Rather than the square slur handle, clicking and holding down the mouse button on the left or right anchor point shows what note it's associated with. I was thinking instead the blue lines of hairpins.

[miker]

Doc Options > Repeats > Repeat Endings... now has the option to attach the first ending to the thin bar line, which gives you the break between them.

[motet]

Nice. What happens when the 1st ending is at the end of a system in one of the parts? In that case, you'd want to to align with the thick line to look right, I think.

[zuill]

This needs to be done manually in the score on in a part. Because there are probably fewer of those than not, that's the way to go. If not, then don't choose that option and manually adjust the ones not at the end of a system.

Zuill

[miker]

Nice. What happens when the 1st ending is at the end of a system in one of the parts? In that case, you'd want to to align with the thick line to look right, I think.

Agreed. You can also adjust that inset numerically, but the default seems fine.