Stem lengths
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How does Finale determine when to use full length or shortened stems? Doc options specifies the lengths dor both, but I can’t find anything that tells when they are used.
What I would like (in a perfect world) would be to specify:
Treble clef staff: layer 1, full length, layer 2, shortened
Bass clef staff: layer 1, shortened, layer 2, full
That would optimize spacing for the lyric line, between the staves.
What I would like (in a perfect world) would be to specify:
Treble clef staff: layer 1, full length, layer 2, shortened
Bass clef staff: layer 1, shortened, layer 2, full
That would optimize spacing for the lyric line, between the staves.
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If you click the Help button in the window where the stem settings are made, it explains the criterion:
"The Shortened Stem Length specifies the length of a stem that’s been flipped in the "wrong" direction, on a note a line (or more) away from the middle staff line."
I think it should have said a step or more away from the middle line. When flipping the stem of a note on the middle line, it remains full length. Any note a step or more away from the middle line, when the stem is flipped, will be shortened.
Zuill
"The Shortened Stem Length specifies the length of a stem that’s been flipped in the "wrong" direction, on a note a line (or more) away from the middle staff line."
I think it should have said a step or more away from the middle line. When flipping the stem of a note on the middle line, it remains full length. Any note a step or more away from the middle line, when the stem is flipped, will be shortened.
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I’m using the default stem directions of layer one, up, and layer two, down. No flipping involved.
EDIT; I think I understand. Normally, a second-line G would be stem up. But if it’s in layer 2, it’s “flipped” because the default is set that way.
EDIT; I think I understand. Normally, a second-line G would be stem up. But if it’s in layer 2, it’s “flipped” because the default is set that way.
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Why?
I also looked at JW Change > Stems > Length. That will shorten the stems, but leaves beams in the same place.
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