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copy music to new file does not bring in time signature changes

Post by mscherperel » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:25 pm

Working with very old version files, updating them and correcting some percussion notation problems, there were so many issues that I decided to create a new empty (1 measure) master file with score manager set up correctly for all parts and then copy the data from the old file, using the edit filter to eliminate all midi data (where I suspect the corruption lies). The problem is that the copy function does not respect time signature changes in the source file and adds rests to make everything in the new file adhere to the time signature of measure 1. Is there a way to bring all the time signature changes along when copying?

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Re: copy music to new file does not bring in time signature changes

Post by michelp » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:51 pm

The time signatures will be copied if you select complete measure stacks in the source file.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:43 pm

… To make a Stack Selection of only some of the staves in the source document, create a Staff Set of only those staves.
Then, while viewing this Staff Set, you can make a Stack Selection of only these staves.

In that way you can even make a Stack Selection of a single staff.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:45 am

Is there a way to bring all the time signature changes along when copying?
No I don't think there is. When I am presented with a similar situation I make the new empty score exactly like the old one with all the times sig changes. Then you can copy and paste and it will be correct every time.
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Post by motet » Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:38 pm

ebiggs1 wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:45 am
No I don't think there is.
Of course there is. See Peter's posting right before yours.

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Post by ebiggs1 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:04 pm

... I decided to create a new empty (1 measure) master file with score manager set up correctly for all parts and then copy the data from the old file, ... . The problem is that the copy function does not respect time signature changes
This is what was asked. He is right it won't respect time sigs.
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Post by motet » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:10 pm

Perhaps I'm not understanding, but I just created a woodwind quintet file with the setup wizard, put in a bunch of time signature changes, then created a second file, deleted all but the first measure, and copied the first file into the second, and all time signature changes were present. What am I not understanding?

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Post by ebiggs1 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:13 pm

The time signatures will be copied if you select complete measure stacks in the source file.
Because you did it like that. The OP didn't.
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Post by michelp » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:15 pm

Maybe the OP should do what works...
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Post by mscherperel » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:31 pm

Thanks for a very useful tip. It does work as you say although it seems weird. If I select, say, staff 5 from the original and then paste it into the new, time signature changes do NOT come along, and, in fact, some other weird changes are made in notated rhythms. When I make a staff set of just staff 5 in the original, copy that, paste it into the target--voila, everything is there as desired. Thanks again!

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Post by motet » Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:43 pm

It is in fact a feature. I think the idea is that the measure settings apply to all staves, not just the one you're copying. In the old days, before this feature was added, you could end up with duplicate tempo marks and rehearsal marks, which was a nuisance.

ebiggs, mscherperel asked, "Is there a way?" There is, and Peter provided it. "Make the new empty score exactly like the old one with all the times sig changes" was maybe not the best advice.
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Post by mscherperel » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:28 pm

Thanks for a very useful tip. It does work as you say although it seems weird. If I select, say, staff 5 from the original and then paste it into the new, time signature changes do NOT come along, and, in fact, some other weird changes are made in notated rhythms. When I make a staff set of just staff 5 in the original, copy that, paste it into the target--voila, everything is there as desired. Thanks again!

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Post by ebiggs1 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:16 pm

Great! That’s the important thing. They can argue over technique but you are golden.
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Post by miker » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:18 pm

Seems like you're the only one arguing.
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