Stemless grace notes

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Stemless grace notes

Post by Roberto » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:42 pm

When writing guitar parts I like to use "regular" grace notes to indicate a pull-off or hammer-on and stemless grace notes for bends. To create the latter I enter the note, make it a grace note, select the note, then use the Custom Stem Tool to get rid of the stem. Is there an easier way?

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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by Roberto » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:08 pm

Thanks, miker. I was hoping for something along the lines of <shift><;> to enter a stemless grace note but your suggestion of JW Change appears to be the next best thing. I'm thinking to enter all the grace note bends with stems and then in one swoop using the filters of the plugin remove the stems.

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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by miker » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:31 pm

That's where the power of the plugin will really shine!
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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by michelp » Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:58 pm

I couldn't get JW Change nor the "Stemless notes" Staff style to work on grace notes, slashed or not, nor on quarter notes (reduced)...
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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by motet » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:02 pm

JW Change worked for me. If they're beamed, you have to hide beams, too. Make sure you select first.
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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by motet » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:11 pm

Staff style works, too!
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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by michelp » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:31 pm

Strange, in my example, it doesn't work (tested again, staff style and JW Change).
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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by motet » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:35 pm

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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by motet » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:42 pm

The staff style indeed doesn't work here. I tried applying it before making the note a grace note, but Finale gets confused and applies the staff style to the following note as well. It seems to be beat-oriented, so if the grace note is not part of some larger duration you can select, I don't think the staff style will work. (In my example with the whole note above, I applied it to the entire measure.)

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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by michelp » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:05 pm

Yes, JW Change (Stems -> Visibility -> Hide) only seems to work if the whole measure is selected, and with the Filter "Grace Note".
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Re: Stemless grace notes

Post by motet » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:41 pm

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