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Post by musicus » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:47 pm

On this one I have a bit much too space between staves and between systems, resulting in a fourth page
with only two systems. I know how to reduce these spaces individually but how do I do it for all
the staves and systems? Thanks.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:14 pm

For the staff spacing I would switch to Scroll View, and adjust the staff spacing there:

Staff Tool.
Staff menu > Staff Usage…

Then, switch to Page View.
Staff menu > Respace Staves…
Choose the last option: Set to Scroll View Spacing


For the system spacing:

Page Layout Tool.
Click on System 2, to select it.
Page Layout menu > Systems > Edit Margins…
You get to the dialog box Edit System Margins.
(or get there faster via the context menu)

Set the System Range to System 2 Thru 18.

Choose a lower value for the Distance Between Systems.
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Post by musicus » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:18 pm

I'm working on the first part of your response (staff spacing), which I don't fully understand.
Specifically, why switch to scroll view and then back to page view without having
done anything in scroll view? Then, having gotten to "Set to Scroll View Spacing" what should I do at that point? When I tried to narrow the spacing from there, it only affected that system, not the others. So I don't get it. Going back to my original question - is there a simpler method? In other words, to adjust the spacing within one system, I drag the handle of the bottom staff until it reaches the desired spacing. OK. But is there another key that I could press that would make the same adjustment globally?
Peter Thomsen wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:14 pm
For the staff spacing I would switch to Scroll View, and adjust the staff spacing there:

Staff Tool.
Staff menu > Staff Usage…

Then, switch to Page View.
Staff menu > Respace Staves…
Choose the last option: Set to Scroll View Spacing


For the system spacing:

Page Layout Tool.
Click on System 2, to select it.
Page Layout menu > Systems > Edit Margins…
You get to the dialog box Edit System Margins.
(or get there faster via the context menu)

Set the System Range to System 2 Thru 18.

Choose a lower value for the Distance Between Systems.

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Post by miker » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:50 pm

Click in the first measure with the staff tool. Hold down the shift ley, and tap the “end” key. This will select that staff all the way to the end. Grab the handle, and drag up. That staff will move in all systems.
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Post by musicus » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:32 pm

Das iz was I was looking for! (I have a Mac so no "end" key, so I just selected that whole line for the desired result.) Sank you!
miker wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:50 pm
Click in the first measure with the staff tool. Hold down the shift ley, and tap the “end” key. This will select that staff all the way to the end. Grab the handle, and drag up. That staff will move in all systems.

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Post by miker » Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:44 pm

Yu iz welcum, zeeba neighbuh.


Seriously, spend the bucks and buy the Mac extended keyboard. It's amazing how often I go to those buttons.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK2C ... us-english
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Post by David Ward » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:09 am

On the smaller Mac keyboard, if you hold down both 'fn' and 'shift' while pressing the right arrow it should behave as the 'end' key. (In Finale and some other applications, but not in all.)
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Post by Ian Stewart » Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:00 am

miker wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:44 pm
Yu iz welcum, zeeba neighbuh.


Seriously, spend the bucks and buy the Mac extended keyboard. It's amazing how often I go to those buttons.

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK2C ... us-english
Agreed but this keyboard is even better:

https://www.daskeyboard.com/

And it's wired ("a wireless keyboard or mouse is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist" - a computer expert I read on a music forum).
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Post by Jay Emmes » Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:40 pm

Or: in page view, staff tool, click in front of the staff (regardless which page) you wish to select. It will select that staff throughout the piece. If you instead click the staff handle, it will only select that staff on that particular page.
As in the Finder: shift-click to select adjacent staffs, command-click to select staff that aren't adjacent.
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