measure numbers not displaying....again

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Post by bj nick » Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:59 pm

I've been over this before, thought I had it nailed. Now measure #'s are not displaying again.....checked over things, measure attributes, etc., not seeing why this is happening. Also in messing around with the "edit number regions" I screwed up a setting and got this gigantic box which shows up on the .pdf........can't figure out what I did.....Sorry to revisit this....
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:52 pm

Actually, the measure numbers do show.

However, you have (surprisingly) set the font size to only 1 Point, thus making the numbers very tiny.
Do you really mean 1 Point ???
I suspect a typo.

Also the measure number position is surprising.
Do you really mean that position ???

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Vertical: 13e)
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Post by motet » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:31 pm

This was noticed and remarked on before.

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Post by bj nick » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:35 pm

motet wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:31 pm
This was noticed and remarked on before.
Yep....as I said, we've been over this.....but it's something I'm still not grasping. Partly it's that sometimes I don't know what question to ask.....maybe not referring to things by their actual names.
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Post by bj nick » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:37 pm

Peter Thomsen wrote:
Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:52 pm
Actually, the measure numbers do show.

However, you have (surprisingly) set the font size to only 1 Point, thus making the numbers very tiny.

Do you really mean 1 Point ???
I suspect a typo.

Also the measure number position is surprising.
Do you really mean that position ???

(Horizontal: 30e
Vertical: 13e)
I just want a totally standard position......I was looking for a "restore default" setting for this but couldn't find it....and regarding font size, as you can see from the attachment, I set font to 10....so I suspect maybe I have the wrong font setting dialogue box, perhaps?
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Post by motet » Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:46 pm

Look at the Measure number regions dialog in the Measure tool.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:28 am

Or via the Document menu:

Document menu > Edit Measure Number Regions…
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Post by bj nick » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:54 am

Okay, got it now. My confusion was that I kept checking font settings in "measure" --"edit measure number regions" and they indicated 10 pt......but in the "Document" - edit measure number regions dialogue box, I saw the 1 pt. setting that was doing the damage.

Peter: the positions you mentioned that seemed out of whack.....what should they be?

Now.....that enormous enclosure/box.....where is that setting? I've tried to check every box or enclosure, can't find the right one.

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Post by motet » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:03 am

Measure/Edit Measure Number Regions and Document/Edit Measure Number Regions lead to the same place, so that wasn't it.

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Post by bj nick » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:29 am

motet wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:03 am
Measure/Edit Measure Number Regions and Document/Edit Measure Number Regions lead to the same place, so that wasn't it.
I believe you.....just what it seemed to me......I looked up the previous discussion on this and tried to check the same areas, but couldn't find the faulty setting. Hopefully the issue won't turn up again.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:00 am

bj nick wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:54 am
… Peter: the positions you mentioned that seemed out of whack…what should they be? …
Obviously it is a matter of taste.
A common measure number position is above the beginning of each system.
Try e. g.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:53 pm

You may want to try the "Easy Measure Numbers plug-in".
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Post by bj nick » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:13 pm

I'd love to try it. Where's the best site to download it from?
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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:24 pm

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:57 pm

… or on Jari Williamson’s own web site:
http://www.finaletips.nu

By The Way:
The plug-in name is “JW Measure Numbers” (not “Easy Measure Numbers”).
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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:48 pm

By The Way:
The plug-in name is “JW Measure Numbers” (not “Easy Measure Numbers”).
Easy Mesure Numbers is/was Finale's plug-in but I did not see it in 27's menu. Somewhat surprised? Perhaps I deleted it?
I never use either myself.
https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Fin ... 0measures.
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Post by Peter Thomsen » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:27 pm

ebiggs1,

Your hyperlink goes to the manual for Finale 2009.
The plug-in Easy Measure Numbers was removed in Finale 2010.

Quoting the manual for Finale 2010 (Interface Changes):
Easy Measure Numbers. Removed in favor of Finale's integrated measure number functionality.
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Post by ebiggs1 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm

Yes indeed. I did say
"but I did not see it in 27's menu."


And, I said I never use either. The link is for a d/l source for the JW version. The mention was simply to help the OP with measure numbers not to start a tit-for-tat.
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Post by motet » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:46 pm

Unless you're creating multiple regions, moving the location of some numbers and not others, etc., etc., the plug-in is overkill and probably won't save you any work. You might be better off just accepting the defaults and not changing anything unless you know what you're doing.

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