"Opp.?" What is this Dynamic?

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Post by Gamestar721 » Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:53 pm

So, I have a very strange question, and it doesn't necessarily relate to Finale, but I need to go to a place filled with musicians to answer this question because I cannot figure it out, and my buddy and I have asked every music professional we know and we have nothing.

In my buddy's bass solo, Elegy in C by Giovanni Bottesini, there is a weird marking next to two of the "p" in the piece and it says "Opp." We looked it up in several music dictionaries and the only thing it brings up is that it's the abbreviation of the plural of "Opus." Now, that cannot be it because it's in the middle of the piece. We have no idea. Could you all help us with this mystery?


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Post by motet » Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:59 pm

I've never seen it, but my guess is that it's an editiorial mark indicating something not in the original but added by an editor. "Opportuno" means "appropriate" in Italian. Just a guess.

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Post by Peter Thomsen » Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:37 pm

Gamestar721 wrote:
Thu Feb 24, 2022 3:53 pm
… In my buddy's bass solo, Elegy in C by Giovanni Bottesini, there is a weird marking next to two of the "p" in the piece and it says "Opp." We looked it up in several music dictionaries …
Instead of looking in music dictionaries I suggest looking in an italian dictionary.

Generally music dictionaries are written by musicians.
Musicians who are not italians, know only little of the italian language.

My guess is that it could be “oppùre“ which means “or”, indicating an alternative.
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Post by BuonTempi » Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:10 pm

Can you show us a scan/photo of the relevant passage?

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Post by David Ward » Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:34 pm

Might it be an abbreviation for oppure = ‘or’ or ‘otherwise’. It is a viable alternative word for ossia often used by Italian composers and indeed sometimes by opera and vocal composers who are not Italian.

Ah! I missed the last line of Peter's post. He is likely to be right: I use the word oppure myself for alternative vocal lines because of its association with Italian opera (with which I can safely assume my singers will be familiar).
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Post by boldest06 » Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:40 pm

I think it refers to the slur. The slur above or below. Or in italian = Oppure (Opp.)
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Post by Jay Emmes » Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:22 pm

It stands indeed for the alternative bowing, as boldest06 demonstrates. "Opp." is rarely used. More commonly used are "ossia" or "ovvero" (ovv.)
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Post by Gamestar721 » Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:22 pm

Yes, the "oppure" is correct, a Bassist on Reddit informed us and I forgot I post this question here lol. Thanks for the help guys!

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